Should people ask for donations from strangers on KB?

[Dutchee]

But the paradox is that 'certain people' will still read this thread and allow themselves to get upset by it.

That's the thing about internet forums. If you're too fragile to cope with them you're better off finding support elsewhere.

Chances are the family won't look at this thread from you. They may not go into this forum (I don't often), or knowing what you had written in another thread, realised it will upset them.
I don't get what you're getting from this. You tried to screw another thread, some folk (not family) had asked you not to, the family also asked you not to, but you persisted on being a wanker.
TGW and Nasty both got a hell of a lot of support here when they needed it after the death of loved ones, they possibly got financial support as well. Big f'ing deal. Nasty has been brilliant with giving us updates on the hell she's been going through with the coroner, and the changes they are making (or have now made) because of Grub's death. I'm sure that has not been an easy time for her, TGW has done things as well because of her loved one's death, the other person you mention is a young person struggling to grasp her llife back with her child depending on her, after losing her loved one. She is better opening up to strangers, some who can help her, than her family having to bring up her child as she couldn't cope.
I really hope you never have to ask anyone for help with anything, but if you do, I'm sure some folk will help you out.
Asking for financial assistance because you've been a 'tard and sprung by the cops, sorry, learn life's lessons. If you'd like to help me out by paying my speeding ticket, let me know ;} (I'm sure others are in the same boat and also accept the fact they've screwed up, so shit happens).

[buffstar]

The world is full of morons.
Some give money.
Some try to calculate countersteering.
Some don't wave.
Some don't take my advice.

Welcome to KB.
Fuck off the lot of ya.

LOL ! - that was worth reading alll the previous posts......

[nodrog:Me]

can i have some money?

[RiderInBlack]

can i have some money?

Depends, have ya sold ya bike?

[Laava]

can i have some money?

'kin ethanopians!

[nodrog:Me]

Depends, have ya sold ya bike?

yep. do you want my account number?

'kin ethanopians!

just a dollar a day bro!

[RiderInBlack]

Would ya ask a Biker Racer if he has sold his bikes if someone else was asking for sponsorship/donations to help the racer's racing?
That has been asked before on here. I remember Two Smoker's Racing Fund . No one questioned if donations be asked for on KB then, or if TS had sold everything else first.

[Genestho]

Chances are the family won't look at this thread from you. They may not go into this forum (I don't often), or knowing what you had written in another thread, realised it will upset them.
I don't get what you're getting from this. You tried to screw another thread, some folk (not family) had asked you not to, the family also asked you not to, but you persisted on being a wanker.
TGW and Nasty both got a hell of a lot of support here when they needed it after the death of loved ones, they possibly got financial support as well. Big f'ing deal. Nasty has been brilliant with giving us updates on the hell she's been going through with the coroner, and the changes they are making (or have now made) because of Grub's death. I'm sure that has not been an easy time for her, TGW has done things as well because of her loved one's death, the other person you mention is a young person struggling to grasp her llife back with her child depending on her, after losing her loved one. She is better opening up to strangers, some who can help her, than her family having to bring up her child as she couldn't cope.
I really hope you never have to ask anyone for help with anything, but if you do, I'm sure some folk will help you out.
Asking for financial assistance because you've been a 'tard and sprung by the cops, sorry, learn life's lessons. If you'd like to help me out by paying my speeding ticket, let me know ;} (I'm sure others are in the same boat and also accept the fact they've screwed up, so shit happens).

The only reason I chose to post in this thread, is to thank those who stepped forward on KB and offline - to help when they understood what I wanted to do, which was to try and prevent what happened to my family, from happening to others. To be honest I'm not even offended by KM, he sometimes has a valid point - although I feel somewhat dissapointed in this thread, we don't know what's around the next corner.

In saying that if KM or anyone needed practical support, I'd be one of the first to see where I could assist. (No I will not pay your fine KM)
I'd like to acknowledge Nasty - who has achieved a good outcome - trying work in difficult circumstances to try to prevent a similar situation, that contributed to the cause of her beloved man's death.
When the call goes out, the call is answered.

YO Gordy, get a pie!!!

[nodrog:Me]

YO Gordy, get a pie!!!

will you donate me one?

[Genestho]

will you donate me one?

How 'bout I donate you this:

[avgas]

How 'bout I donate you this:

Why is it a easy open can? I think its false advertising.
Unless milo has changed its name?

[jonbuoy]

I´ve always found it a bit odd asking for donations - be it for racing, legal fees or because you did something retarded or donating to a deceased bikers family. I ride a bike because I like bikes, it doesn´t make me a hero or anything special or worthy of charitable donations should I fuck up or be fucked up by another road user. Bikes carry a risk - if you have a family dependent on your income and you can still afford a sportsbike get a half decent life insurance policy. If you can´t afford it sell your bike or ride bloody carefully.

[cowboyz]

Firstly.. I agree with Katman.. (you can frame that quote cause it doesnt happen often)

Secondly, there is so much that cant be discussed on kiwibiker because it might upset someone. Years ago I had a girlfriend. She decided she didnt like me anymore (hard to believe) Every time I went out on the street and saw a woman it reminded me I used to have one and upset me and I found myself asking.. Why.. OH WHY are all these woman allowed out of the kitchen????
my point is (cause this is kiwibiker so there is bound to be 400 people who miss it) is that when something bad happens, everything could be a reminder of the incident. its no reason not to discuss it.

back on topic. I am pretty set square really. I dont give money to fund any outcome of crashes. End of story. With racing donations where ppl have shown potiential and just need a leg up then that is different. Im way too tight to go handing over money for nothing but for instance, I was very happy to help out sketchy racer when he held at BBQ mid forgotten highway ride that I organised a while back.
Aside from that. everyone is doing it hard these days.

[davebullet]

People ask for help where they can find it. Whether it is for advice, for money or just someone to lend an ear. Genuine requests for any of the above on any site are welcome in my book.

I think the problem is all too often people don't ask for help, then do something to hurt themselves or others when they can't cope.

If a life can be helped or saved, then the end justifies the means.

[PrincessBandit]

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Secondly, there is so much that cant be discussed on kiwibiker because it might upset someone. ....................... when something bad happens, everything could be a reminder of the incident. its no reason not to discuss it.

back on topic. I am pretty set square really. I dont give money to fund any outcome of crashes. End of story. With racing donations where ppl have shown potiential and just need a leg up then that is different. Im way too tight to go handing over money for nothing but for instance, I was very happy to help out sketchy racer when he held at BBQ mid forgotten highway ride that I organised a while back.
Aside from that. everyone is doing it hard these days.

People ask for help where they can find it. Whether it is for advice, for money or just someone to lend an ear. Genuine requests for any of the above on any site are welcome in my book.

I think the problem is all too often people don't ask for help, then do something to hurt themselves or others when they can't cope.

If a life can be helped or saved, then the end justifies the means.

Two consecutive points, both different and equally valid. Questions can and should be asked whether or not they provoke controversy.