To be blunt...

[Katman]

Care to extrapolate?

I believe it's the governments intention to eventually be rid of motorcycles. If we're lucky they may allow us to all run around on mopeds.

I see it happening as a two-pronged attack. They are trying to legislate and price those, not fully committed to motorcycling, out of motorcycling and at the same time they are setting about turning public opinion against us thereby guaranteeing plenty of support as they bring in more and more draconian methods to be rid of us.

Make no mistake - if we don't sort our shit out soon we will eventually be kissing goodbye to the motorcycling liberties we're all so fond of.

[eelracing]

I believe it's the governments intention to eventually be rid of motorcycles. If we're lucky they may allow us to all run around on mopeds.

I see it happening as a two-pronged attack. They are trying to legislate and price those, not fully committed to motorcycling, out of motorcycling and at the same time they are setting about turning public opinion against us thereby guaranteeing plenty of support as they bring in more and more draconian methods to be rid of us.

Make no mistake - if we don't sort our shit out soon we will eventually be kissing goodbye to the motorcycling liberties we're all so fond of.

An interesting theory and one to ponder on in the current climate.

Can't help but thinking that as long as petrol prices are hovering around 2 bucks a litre (and no doubt soon to rise)motorcycling and in particular scooters will be looked on as a viable option for roadusers/commuters.

Maybe the motorcar industry/governments fear all along?

[peasea]

I believe it's the governments intention to eventually be rid of motorcycles. If we're lucky they may allow us to all run around on mopeds.

I see it happening as a two-pronged attack. They are trying to legislate and price those, not fully committed to motorcycling, out of motorcycling and at the same time they are setting about turning public opinion against us thereby guaranteeing plenty of support as they bring in more and more draconian methods to be rid of us.

Make no mistake - if we don't sort our shit out soon we will eventually be kissing goodbye to the motorcycling liberties we're all so fond of.

If it does come to that I'll be kissing goodbye to NZ soil.

[Kickaha]

Being on the wrong side of the road is just plain dumb (unless the rider was skidding on something etc) and I doubt that engine displacement had anything to do with it.

So where's the thread slagging him off for piss poor riding? sorry forgot for a moment he's riding a motorbike so he only deserves sympathy

poor craftsmen blames their tools.

That's because a poor craftsman has poor tools

[_Shrek_]

Care to extrapolate?

it's the intention of the govt to have bikes off the the road by 2050, but I can't remember where I was reading it :slap: maybe some on here can!!!

[Katman]

it's the intention of the govt to have bikes off the the road by 2050, but I can't remember where I was reading it :slap: maybe some on here can!!!

This is the thread here.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ing-to-ban-you!

Personally, I think they hope to have it done and dusted well before then.

[rustic101]

What concerns me is who going to address the comments made? While the District Commander was technically correct with some of what he stated, the statistics are taken completely out of proportion to the crash stats provided by NZTA.

My questions is? Where are BRONZ or Ulysses standing on this?

Again there is a clear lack of leadership from each of these organisations IMHO. Each should be putting their hand up and demanding a right of reply; either prearranged when an article is being written, or immediately after. Who is going to hold NZ Police to account for the continued ridiculous comments around motorcyclists, which are always out of perspective and stop short of false or misleading information.

There are individuals on here, brave as buggery, bitching and moaning, but here is not the domain to address or represent motorcyclists.

Rant over!


Yet again

[_Shrek_]

Oi. Go look at the stats. It's not us OLD hooligans that are crashing, it's them young punks in their 40s.

:slap: & i thought i was do'n ok until i read the post below

40-55 eh? Goody. That means I'm past my "mid life crisis" years and must have progressed to "the Old Fucks" time of life...........

so that means that the 25 years i was riding befor i turned 40 I was normal & 40 to 55 i'm in a mid life chrisis so that means I'm going to be a menace for another 3 years

[danchop]

going by these fiqures, although a year or so old,it seems the mid life crisis people have far more accidents at home?

Injuries in the home in the Nelson-Tasman region in 2007/08
In 2007/08 ACC accepted 13,893 new claims from people who were injured at home and provided continuing care and support for a further 16,275 active home injury claims. These included:

Nelson-Tasman region: Where cause is a fall and scene is home
Age

Number of new claims

Number of active claims

Total cost of active claims

24 years and under

1,584

1720

$469,545

25-64 years

2312

2880

$3.6 million

Over 65 years

1652

1916

$1.3 million


Road injuries in the Nelson-Tasman region in 2007/08
In 2007/08 ACC accepted 929 new road injury claims and provided continuing care and support for a further 1421 active road claims. These included:

Road user

Number of new claims

Number of active claims

Total cost of active claims

Cars

575

860

$4.5 million

Motorcycles

155

259

$1.5 million

Pedestrians

57

96

$1.0 million

[_Shrek_]

This is the thread here.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ing-to-ban-you!

Personally, I think they hope to have it done and dusted well before then.

cheers & aye but not with out a fight

[Katman]

cheers & aye but not with out a fight

I hate to say it but fighting ain't gunna do shit.

By setting about improving the way motorcycling is perceived and thereby attracting more and more people to it is the only way we have a chance of seeing motorcycling surviving. Only with the numbers behind us will we have a chance to scupper the governments plans.

[peasea]

So where's the thread slagging him off for piss poor riding?

You tell me.

[scumdog]

I scrape both sides of my chubby W/g with monotonous regularity, but only just. I know how far it'll go (safely) and yes, there's more speed to be had by twisting the throttle but there's not a lot of point if it's not gonna make the corner, right? On top of that, it'll do a couple-a-hundred k's flat out but with forward controls you're riding like a parasail, so why bother with that either? It's a comfy ride with gobs of torque, great for touring and it suits my see-bones. It's a fine tool for the job and I don't blame it for anything.

Kinda sums it up well, I find my bike just right for ME, torquey, thrifty, smooth and comfortable for long rides. - and I forgive you for the tassle comment.!

[duckonin]

I hate to say this this but - There is a an element of truth to this article, being releativley new to the biking scene(3 yrs) I see a lot of riders who ride like dicks. Whilst I may not be the that quick, my aim when I go out on the bike is to get back in one piece, and not treat the roads as a race track.

Fuck u must be old....

[Genie]

going by these fiqures, although a year or so old,it seems the mid life crisis people have far more accidents at home?

Injuries in the home in the Nelson-Tasman region in 2007/08
In 2007/08 ACC accepted 13,893 new claims from people who were injured at home and provided continuing care and support for a further 16,275 active home injury claims. These included:

Nelson-Tasman region: Where cause is a fall and scene is home
Age

Number of new claims

Number of active claims

Total cost of active claims

24 years and under

1,584

1720

$469,545

25-64 years

2312

2880

$3.6 million

Over 65 years

1652

1916

$1.3 million


Road injuries in the Nelson-Tasman region in 2007/08
In 2007/08 ACC accepted 929 new road injury claims and provided continuing care and support for a further 1421 active road claims. These included:

Road user

Number of new claims

Number of active claims

Total cost of active claims

Cars

575

860

$4.5 million

Motorcycles

155

259

$1.5 million

Pedestrians

57

96

$1.0 million

staying home is more dangerous than motorcycling then????