NO MORE FUCKING CRASHING

[pyrocam]

NO CRASH IS FUNNY. PERIOD

IF you have that attitude dont ride, even dropping it isnt funny - how people die with that attitude.

Humor is a way that people can deal with things.

sometimes you just have to laugh at it.

eg. Ive just had a near death experience, I dont run up to people and start talking about my will, I make light-hearted conversation about it.

but again. 2c

[John]

not taking a stab at you or any of the other faster riders on here.

I know that crashing in riding can be part of the learning process, BUT does it have to be? I've had one bin in 3 years of riding and I know exactly why it happend (i was being stupid).

Look at some of the more 'older' riders on here, some of them are up to 20-40yrs of riding with less than 3 crash's in the whole time... most of which happened a lot further down the line...

however on the other hand it is good to get 'those' habits ironed out while you are still learing to ride.

It doesn’t have to be though that’s the point, if you crash and live you have lived to learn and are wiser for it, if you die I guess that either the odds were against you.

Facts of life is the beast realisation I'm afraid - everything involves risk.

I refute the idea of laughing at a crash, waylander I didn’t think you were to happy about your unfortunate incident, but what did you learn? You learnt that you must never ride on your limits on unknown roads (not picking you out, your the only one other than myself that has crashed), I realise that you may think that its healthy to laugh - I don’t think that is the case, every incident that you have could be your last - you must analyse what went wrong and you MUST make sure it never happens again, if it was something outside your control figure out a way to prevent it..

Posting an incident report on the site will spark provocation obviously, everyone sees it different, I post mine in the hope that someone will learn something from my incident and save them from meeting a similar fate.>>

[Ixion]

Na mate I was talking about your post. Wrecks happen and as long as people can laugh about them then it's fine. If people take all wrecks seriously even the small ones where no one was injured and all then what's the point? Why not just stay home laying in bed doing nothing becouse you never know what could happen out there in the world. Shit happens may aswell deal with it and move on.

Because even the small ones where no one was injured could just as easily be the big ones where someone dies.

Every time someone crashs they're offering themselves as a sacrifice to the biker gods. No-one can crash on the road and guarantee they're going to walk away from it. There is always the chance that the Biker Gods will be feeling shitty that day. And when that happens it means grief and sorrow for people who didn't ask for and have done nothing to deserve it. Spouses, wives, mothers, fathers, kids who won't ever ride with dad,loved ones, friends. They're they ones who have to "deal with it".

Of course motorcycling is dangerous. We all accept that. That doesn't mean we can stick our heads in the sand , say "shit happens so who cares". Means that we say "Tis dangerous - but only to the extent that my vigilance care experience and determination NOT to crash can't prevent it"

It's the difference between the amateur and the professional. The professional doesn't take needless risks. Yes, "shit happens" but professionals minimise the opportunity for the shit. Both professionals and amateurs may crash. Only the amateur will think it's a joke. The professional will think "I stuffed up. By the Grace of my gods I'm still alive. How can I make sure I NEVER do that again"

None of us can ever be too often reminded that we owe it to those who love us to TAKE CARE.

[John]

Humor is a way that people can deal with things.

sometimes you just have to laugh at it.

eg. Ive just had a near death experience, I dont run up to people and start talking about my will, I make light-hearted conversation about it.

but again. 2c

Big difference to what you are all implying, you cant honestly say that you can laugh about hitting a car head on, sure you can be light hearted about it - but you can 'laugh' that’s just really playing with fate, I also know that humour helps our mind send out endorphins in our brain? or a similar chemical I cant be sure I know I heard similar somewhere that effects the operation and memory of the brain don’t know how cock and ball it is but yea, thinking about a crash is a much better idea, that way not only your subconscious will remember the incident but your active mind will also there by providing you with a two fold protection against further incident>>

[John]

It's the difference between the amateur and the professional. The professional doesn't take needless risks. Yes, "shit happens" but professionals minimise the opportunity for the shit. Both professionals and amateurs may crash. Only the amateur will think it's a joke. The professional will think "I stuffed up. By the Grace of my gods I'm still alive. How can I make sure I NEVER do that again"

You said it better than me

[John]

Dunno, I've had some offs on the dirt that the keystone cops would have been proud of.

Well go buy yourself a sticker..

[Waylander]

I may be puting out the wrong image here. I know that wrecks arn't funny but being able to laugh about it makes it easier to ride again. Maybe I am a fatalist but that's just me. You people can think what you want but for me I'll just live, laugh and learn.

[N4CR]

If people take all wrecks seriously even the small ones where no one was injured and all then what's the point?

The point is that if a crash/bin/drop happens (esp on the road) it is almost always serious.. - even a stationary drop where some truck might be a while away coming towards and intersection and the light goes green.. he is expecting you to move off.. you can't now as you just dropped your bike infront of him while clutching badly.. what happens next when he is too close to stop?

If you are being a dumbarse on a farmbike and trying to jump cow shit or something stupid for you mates and end up getting a facefull... of course it will be funny untill you end up with a broken arm from doing it another time.

What I'm trying to say is that all crashes/bins/drops/../../.. no matter what can be potentially dangerous and should taken seriously!

edit: seems like ixion said the same thing while writing this

[John]

Humour is a way that people can deal with things.

Sometimes you just have to laugh at it.

eg. I’ve just had a near death experience, I don’t run up to people and start talking about my will, I make light-hearted conversation about it.

But again. 2c

I have had two very near deaths this year, both bike riding - I don’t even like to talk about them, sure that maybe me - still don’t think making wise cracks will help you, just makes you feel wiser than you are.

I will share the crashes just for you, I was hit by a car at an intersection when they drove into me, that was very serious - got no help was left in the middle of the busiest intersection trying to help myself..

2nd, I even prayed when I saw the dog, when I hit the dog - I pretty much new I was either going to die or be very lucky, there were cars in front and one behind rather close and it was dark, I'm glad that they managed to see my bike light (the one behind) or else I was road meat, and the fact that when I was knocked out I am glad I wasn’t thrown in the other lane..

I thank the biker lords every time I go for a ride, I respect the road and it gives it back when I deserve it, crazy? No just sensible - if you know that you can die you act a hell of a lot more responsibly.>>

[Big Dave]

Well go buy yourself a sticker..

I'm in,....what sticker?

[John]

I'm in,....what sticker?

Well its up to you but suggestions I have are:

'I impressed an officer of the law'

Or preferably one of those little 'stars' with 'I am a star’ written in them, that would suit you to a dime.

[pyrocam]

your point is respectfully taken John.

Well its up to you but suggestions I have are:

'I impressed an officer of the law'

Or preferably one of those little 'stars' with 'I am a star’ written in them, that would suit you to a dime.

can you get one that says 'gold star boy'

[John]

Yea I would like to say I was abit harsh in all that, I mean it respectfully I just cant stand hearing of a death then people joking about crashes that is all, main point be carefull out there.

Everyone has a valid point (including BD needing a sticker) its all valid.

[R6_kid:Me]

Everyone has a valid point (including BD needing a sticker) its all valid.

i think we all need stickers for posting this late at night....

but cheers to Ixion - summed up what i was trying to say

and john too (he needs a really big puuuurdy sticker )

[Big Dave]

Well its up to you but suggestions I have are:

'I impressed an officer of the law'

Or preferably one of those little 'stars' with 'I am a star’ written in them, that would suit you to a dime.

ha!
Legend in me own lunchbox, mate.
'If there is anything bigger then my ego around i want it caught and shot immediately.'