Tickets for 4km/h over the speed limit this Queens Birthday weekend

[Eyegasm]

They police and entrap way past the spirit of the law to a level that brings scorn, and a feeling of miss-aligned justice.

This reminds me of a scene at a petrol station.

Officer politely asks this chick to move her car forward about 3 meters, Dunno why.

Chick gets in car and moves it. Police officer then calmly states to wait there while he writes her a ticket for not wearing her seatbelt. She went banana's at him... I thought it was a dirty tactic, but couldn't help but laugh.

She had her belt on when she pulled into the servo, but not when he ask her to move.

Dirty tactic, but I admire his ingenuity. (Probably be different if it was me though)

[Bald Eagle]

This reminds me of a scene at a petrol station.

Officer politely asks this chick to move her car forward about 3 meters, Dunno why.

Chick gets in car and moves it. Police officer then calmly states to wait there while he writes her a ticket for not wearing her seatbelt. She went banana's at him... I thought it was a dirty tactic, but couldn't help but laugh.

She had her belt on when she pulled into the servo, but not when he ask her to move.

Dirty tactic, but I admire his ingenuity. (Probably be different if it was me though)

Was she a blonde ?

[rastuscat]

where trained monkeys and incentivised neolithic power hungry pricks are sent out onto our roads with some false sense of moral crusade to save us from our selves.

Speed kills? But what's being done about the lack of good roads, poor intersections, old unregistered un warranted vehicles, huge trucks blocking the pathetic narrow roads we call state highways, lack of overtaking lanes, lack of duel carriage ways, drunk drivers, road works that leave death traps for drivers/riders, lack of public transport, how easy it is to get a drivers licences here, just look at the lack of willingness to even discuss the cheese cutter issue.

Nice rant. I'm one of the above mentioned trained monkeys.

To answer your questions;

Police don't build roads or intersections. Refer to your local council or LTNZ office.

We don't fix potholes. Refer to your local council or LTNZ office.

We don't provide public transport. See your local authority about this.

We don't build cheesecutters. Refer to your local council or LTNZ office.

We don't issue drivers licences. Refer to your local licensing agent.

We don't build passing lanes. Refer to your local council or LTNZ office.

We don't priovide duel lanes, altough I guess you mean dual lanes, not lanes for people to duel in. Certainly duelling lanes would mean pistols at dawn through open drivers windows. Imagine that.

We do, however, hammer shitty cars with the laws that exist. We process as many drunks as we humanly can. Few things give us more satisfaction.

We turn up at work every day to be pilloried, scorned and abused by such as yourself, and continue to go out and do the job we are told and paid to do.

I hope this clears up your misconceptions. But I doubt it.

Ho hum.

[oldrider]

Was she a blonde ?

More appropriate question, "was he blonde" ?

[rastuscat]

Piss off!!!! they love it, small minded pratts love throwing their weight around

Gosh, you certainly are bitter.

I'm one of your small minded pratts, and yes, I enjoy my job. I work with a great bunch, and do a job that contributes to society.

Hope your foul personality improves though.

[onearmedbandit]

I speed. I've got the tickets to back it up. I am a criminal. But it's my choice. I don't agree with the 100km/h blanket limit, but luckily I have a device in both my car and bike that alert me to the veloicty I'm travelling at. Thankfully the manufacturers of my vehicles made my speedo's read optomistic (108km/h = 100km/h in the car and 113km/h = 100km/h on the bike - both GPS checked) so if I get a ticket for 104km/h it is my fault. I'll wear the ticket (fair cop if I was breaking the limit, I know the rules) and pay it, even though I may have been putting no one elses life at risk.

How about breath alcohol testing? Very few of us carry a device that informs you if you're near the 401 limit, and on top of that there is no tolerence. I don't see anyone complaining about that, yet the chances of you knowing where you are at on the scale are virtually impossible.

All I'm saying is that there is a limit, there is a means of knowing if you're near that limit (remember, it is a limit, not the recommended speed, no one says you have to travel at exactly 100km/h), and if you decide to break that limit (be it outside a school at 3pm or on an empty back road at 3am) then the consequences are fully on your shoulders. (BTW, I got pinged a month ago at 120km/h on an empty straight piece of road with great visibility. I was gutted, but it was me who decided to break the law.)

[Max Preload]

There might actually be something in that espcially at 100km/h when they are using their radar equipment. How accurate are they?

Microwave... moving mode... +/- 2km/h... (from memory)

This could actually make things safer (in terms of tickets, not crashes). That tolerence is so fine that cops will pretty much have to radar every car that comes along. Instead of using instant on only on the ones that are clipping along. So Hector the Protector should be able to pick the cops up way early.

True. And the chance of coming across a cop who doesn't already have a 'customer' also drops...

[rastuscat]

I speed. I've got the tickets to back it up. I am a criminal. But it's my choice. I don't agree with the 100km/h blanket limit, but luckily I have a device in both my car and bike that alert me to the veloicty I'm travelling at. Thankfully the manufacturers of my vehicles made my speedo's read optomistic (108km/h = 100km/h in the car and 113km/h = 100km/h on the bike - both GPS checked) so if I get a ticket for 104km/h it is my fault. I'll wear the ticket (fair cop if I was breaking the limit, I know the rules)

Hmmm. Personal responsibility. A novel approach, but I doubt it will catch on.

[shrub]

We turn up at work every day to be pilloried, scorned and abused by such as yourself, and continue to go out and do the job we are told and paid to do.

I hope this clears up your misconceptions. But I doubt it.

Ho hum.

Good points made, and I realise you are told to police the laws in the manner that Our Masters want, but how much discretion do you have?

For example, if i overtake a car doing 90 kmh at 104 kmh, I am going to spend a loooooong time on the wrong side of the road, and I know I will be much safer if I tap the throttle open and get past and back into my lane as fast as possible, which means I will probably hit 120 kmh or more. So do I play by the rules and place myself in danger, sit behind the slow car for my whole journey while traffic banks up behind me and invariably follows too close or break the law for a couple of seconds and minimise my risk?

And will you pull up the driver who is eating a pie, drinking coffee and looking at his stereo while driving at the (safe) speed of 104 kmh? Or will you let him go and pull me up for travelling at 105 kmh and completely focussing on the task in hand?

Our Masters who art in wellington are doing you NO favours with this because you will be pilloried, scorned and abused even more, and we won't listen to you because we can't see the logic in your actions.

[onearmedbandit]

Good points made, and I realise you are told to police the laws in the manner that Our Masters want, but how much discretion do you have?

For example, if i overtake a car doing 90 kmh at 104 kmh, I am going to spend a loooooong time on the wrong side of the road, and I know I will be much safer if I tap the throttle open and get past and back into my lane as fast as possible, which means I will probably hit 120 kmh or more. So do I play by the rules and place myself in danger, sit behind the slow car for my whole journey while traffic banks up behind me and invariably follows too close or break the law for a couple of seconds and minimise my risk?

I remember when I was a young lad and I observed my father speeding while overtaking another car. I asked him if it was legal to go over the limit to pass, to which of course he explained it wasn't. I asked him how do you then pass people legally. His response was you either didn't or you waited until you had enough clear road in front to pass without exceeding the limit. Of course he rarely did this, and nor do I. But by the letter of the law, I suppose this is how it is approached. Not practical, and rarely observed however.

And will you pull up the driver who is eating a pie, drinking coffee and looking at his stereo while driving at the (safe) speed of 104 kmh? Or will you let him go and pull me up for travelling at 105 kmh and completely focussing on the task in hand?

Whilst I totally agree (who wouldn't) until the police are issued with 'Moron Detectors' or the like speeders will be the ones getting caught. A mass murderer could drive around with 5 bodies squeezed into his trunk all day long not breaking the speed limit and never get caught. Speeding however will be the crime he gets noticed for, not being a mass murderer.

Our Masters who art in wellington are doing you NO favours with this because you will be pilloried, scorned and abused even more, and we won't listen to you because we can't see the logic in your actions.

Yep, unfortunately it's going to be the frontline guys getting the shit.

[firefighter]

Their should not be any "speed" law, it should come under dangerous driving the speed law is just a cop out & an easy way to bring in the $$$ it's all it is!

Just Remember.
If speed killed Hammond would be dead.
The faster you go, the quicker you get there!

Oh. My. God. That idea is retarded at best. (tell me you're joking and not that unintelligent.....)

And by the way, Hammond lived because he was wrapped up in cotton wool. Surely to god, you realise that a car does'nt provide that protection. It does'nt go as fast, yes, but it's not the same.
Surely you understand that. If not, your like those muslims denying the attrocities that happened in WW2. Complete and utter ignorance and daftness.

You need some basic lessons in physics if you cannot understand that if you are going faster, you will be more injured........ask the people who clean it up. We know. Keyboard jockeys do'nt.

YOU do'nt know, so much so you should organise a ride along at a station with a rescue tender and hopefully you will get some sort of an education, and learn what you've just said is as rediculous as that crap coming from the muslims.

You have basically said, that those of us who do attend this shit, do'nt know what we are talking about, at the high speed incidents we went to, the victims were'nt more injured (or more torn apart) than at low speed ones. Guess what, we were there.

You need your fucken head read.

By the way, since what is really a simple concept has slipped through your reality, Speed Kills does'nt mean that if you speed you will evaporate on the spot and die. It means if you have an accident, you will be worse off than if you were'nt.
It's common fucken sense. I am well aware that common sense is'nt common, even more so having to explain simple stuff like the above.

[Ragingrob]

Hmmm. Personal responsibility. A novel approach, but I doubt it will catch on.

The thing that gets me, is the double standard that seems to apply.

All's fair to give out tickets for breaking the law, but kinda sucks the public can't return the favour when we see cops break the law so often ourselves yet getting away with it. Why do I get a ticket for being 5km/h over the limit, when mr policeman happily drives at over 10km/h over the speed limit/fails to indicate correctly/insert law-breaking action here...?

Where's the cop's personal responsibility to adhere to their own rules?

P.S. One thing that really pisses me off is when a cop sits in the outside lane of the motorway at 90kph slowing the entire motorway system down, I thought the law says one must keep left unless overtaking, the number of times I've had to undertake cops because they're going so slowly in the right hand lane is ridiculous.

[shrub]

Whilst I totally agree (who wouldn't) until the police are issued with 'Moron Detectors' or the like speeders will be the ones getting caught.


Yep, unfortunately it's going to be the frontline guys getting the shit.

I thought most cop cars had a moron detector sitting behind the wheel? I ride quite a few ks a year in traffic, and every journey I see people doing really stupid shit like eating pies and turning to their passengers to talk to them for several seconds in traffic. Only problem is it's real easy to write a ticket for 55 kmh, but hard to pull someone up and explain that driving a car requires complete focus and concentrated attention on the task in hand, so Our Masters will instruct their minions to police the speed limit even more enthusiastically.

[miloking]

I'm one of your small minded pratts, and yes, I enjoy my job. I work with a great bunch, and do a job that contributes to society.

HAHAHAHAHA, thats the best one today "do a job that contributes to society" and "work with great bunch" ....wake up buddy, you are not contributing anything, you are a just enforcer of rule from above...and your great bunch is a shameful group of money collecting "automatons"...you got the first one right tho...

[firefighter]

HAHAHAHAHA, thats the best one today "do a job that contributes to society" and "work with great bunch" ....wake up buddy, you are not contributing anything, you are a just enforcer of rule from above...and your great bunch is a shameful group of money collecting "automatons"...

What do you do for a living? Simple question.