Tickets for 4km/h over the speed limit this Queens Birthday weekend

[Hinny]

So why weren't there MORE crashes due to flood, heavy rain, ice, snow?? (And generally snow etc draws out the idiots who want to 'see what it's like')

I thought those adverse conditions would have balanced the claim there were fewer people on the roads

There, I fixed it for you.

Your point reiterates my point.
When it rains it generally rains 'Pennies from Heaven' for Panel-beaters and Taxi drivers - As I'm sure you are acutely aware.
We can, I guess, just lament that there was a lower contribution to the desirable outcome of a lower population.
Now if we can just figure out how to swap losing the good guys for those we don't like.
Mind you: Education and they will all be good guys.... Wishful thinking.

[smoky]

Round here it was suggested that a good place to patrol was at the end of passing lanes, and I did so on QB weekend.

I've got no radar so wasn't looking at speed but rather for these drivers that think they can use the last piece where passing is no longer safe to pass and thereby crash.

Stats on patrol research I have seen show that this is a common occurrence.

Just shows how retarded your thinking is

How about some attention to sorting the problem before it becomes a race at the end of a passing lane, like pulling over road hogs and giving them a little bit of advice about sharing the road with others who wish to maintain a legal 100 Klm/hr.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Just shows how retarded your thinking is

How about some attention to sorting the problem before it becomes a race at the end of a passing lane, like pulling over road hogs and giving them a little bit of advice about sharing the road with others who wish to maintain a legal 100 Klm/hr.

A great idea but not really practical. Consider the logistics of gathering the appropriate evidence for such prosecutions.... incredibly time consuming following people around like that and of course they won't behave the same with a patrol car up their date so unlikely to bear much fruit.

[scumdog]

Just shows how retarded your thinking is

How about some attention to sorting the problem before it becomes a race at the end of a passing lane, like pulling over road hogs and giving them a little bit of advice about sharing the road with others who wish to maintain a legal 100 Klm/hr.

Hah!

Join up (even as a 'non-sworn'), get an admin job and tell them to do as you wish, show them the most effective way to do the job, I'm sure you vast knowledge and experience in the matter will glow like a beacon and no retarded thinking will happen........pfft, like that's going to happen...

'Course sitting behind the keyboard always seems to impart knowledge to those who have none at times..

[MarkH]

pulling over road hogs and giving them a little bit of advice about sharing the road with others who wish to maintain a legal 100 Klm/hr.

A great idea but not really practical. Consider the logistics of gathering the appropriate evidence for such prosecutions.... incredibly time consuming following people around like that and of course they won't behave the same with a patrol car up their date so unlikely to bear much fruit.

Reading comprehension = fail!

Where did smoky say anything about prosecutions? How about a mufti car travelling along the road and observes a car travelling at 80kph with another car stuck behind it, when getting to the passing lane the slower car speeds up to 105kph and the car that was stuck behind speeds up to 125kph during the passing manoeuvre - mufti cop could then pull over the slow car and explain why what he was doing was wrong. People that speed up while being passed should really receive the fine and demerits that are currently going to the car doing the passing, but pulling them over and explaining why their discourteous and dangerous driving should change may work in some cases at least.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Reading comprehension = fail!

Where did smoky say anything about prosecutions? How about a mufti car travelling along the road and observes a car travelling at 80kph with another car stuck behind it, when getting to the passing lane the slower car speeds up to 105kph and the car that was stuck behind speeds up to 125kph during the passing manoeuvre - mufti cop could then pull over the slow car and explain why what he was doing was wrong. People that speed up while being passed should really receive the fine and demerits that are currently going to the car doing the passing, but pulling them over and explaining why their discourteous and dangerous driving should change may work in some cases at least.

Very fitting that the site is known as KB.. as it fits so well with the P in PKB.

Where in my post did I say it was a bad idea. (in fact I said it was a good idea)

Yes he was talking about warnings and driver education but ultimately, what's the impact of warnings if they don't have the threat of prosecution eh?

My comments re practicality are based in the logic of efficiency time in motion etc (bang for $) Most of the police vehicles assigned to traffic are not mufti. Most mufti cars are used by proper policemen (who don't do traffic or education) who are involved in proper police duties. So it isn't really a practical use of the resources available. I for one do not want to see an increase in muftis for traffic policing. The negatives associated with the abundance of weasels in marked cars is enough without camouflaging them.

[donmc]

If you go fast enough then their radar guns can't get an accurate reading on your speed.

in my experience, during rapid acceleration or deceleration the radar is unable to get a lock until your speed becomes constant.

[scumdog]

in my experience, during rapid acceleration or deceleration the radar is unable to get a lock until your speed becomes constant.

In my experience the time from radar turned on to locking on the speed is about the same time it take to do a channel-change twice with the TV remote.

So you would have to do a might fast accelerate/decelerate act to beat that.....

[SMOKEU]

In my experience the time from radar turned on to locking on the speed is about the same time it take to do a channel-change twice with the TV remote.

So you would have to do a might fast accelerate/decelerate act to beat that.....

Radar detector to the rescue!

[scumdog]

Radar detector to the rescue!

Yep - if you're attention is up to scratch it might save you from a ticket if you're doing say 115kph or so, if your doing 145kph it may save your licence.

And you have to be on the ball EVERY time.

But frankly I couldn't be naffed having one - the cost, the false alarms etc with the speeds I do make it a no-go - plus I'm sure I'd forget to transfer it from one vehicle/bike to another at some stage.

[SMOKEU]

Yep - if you're attention is up to scratch it might save you from a ticket if you're doing say 115kph or so, if your doing 145kph it may save your licence.

And you have to be on the ball EVERY time.

But frankly I couldn't be naffed having one - the cost, the false alarms etc with the speeds I do make it a no-go - plus I'm sure I'd forget to transfer it from one vehicle/bike to another at some stage.

I don't really worry about the false alarms, turning everything except Ka band off. Although some of the new camera vans are on K band I understand, but that's OK because I generally keep my speeds down around town.

[Hinny]

Yes he was talking about warnings and driver education but ultimately, what's the impact of warnings if they don't have the threat of prosecution eh?

The impact would be the same as teaching children how to behave.
One does not need the threat of a hiding to make the child understand and change the bad behaviour.
Get with the times.

[MarkH]

My comments re practicality are based in the logic of efficiency time in motion etc (bang for $) Most of the police vehicles assigned to traffic are not mufti. Most mufti cars are used by proper policemen (who don't do traffic or education) who are involved in proper police duties. So it isn't really a practical use of the resources available. I for one do not want to see an increase in muftis for traffic policing. The negatives associated with the abundance of weasels in marked cars is enough without camouflaging them.

To be honest I think the plonkers that speed up while being passed would not even notice a marked police car behind them. As far as bang for $ goes - I agree that is the mentality, the police don't want to get drivers to improve their driving behaviour, they just want to hand out tickets. It's a bit sad really.

When I used to drive a car it was often difficult to safely pass slow idiots when there weren't any passing lanes. I remember coming to a passing lane and changing down a gear and planting my boot - I got passed one car and had accelerated from 80 to 145kph, then the passing lane ended and I had to continue sitting behind the other slow arseholes. But as you say, the police have no interest in educating drivers about why they shouldn't speed up when other vehicles are pulling out into the passing lane to get passed them. They don't even mention dick moves like that in their ads.

[flyingcrocodile46]

The impact would be the same as teaching children how to behave.
One does not need the threat of a hiding to make the child understand and change the bad behaviour.
Get with the times.

Well Hiney as the police aren't actually educating children (or drivers), but are in fact smacking them around the ears and taking their lunch money. I would respectfully suggest that it might in fact be yourself that is out of touch 'with the times'.

Unless you are going to significantly increase the number of police on traffic work (say 2 to 3 times) it is not a practical use of limited resources. It is more effective to increase the effectiveness of the presence of a finite resource by having it wave a big stick menacingly than to make infinite resources available to track everybody's every move and provide kind words of guidance whenever they stray from the path.

[Coldrider]

Well Hiney as the police aren't actually educating children (or drivers), but are in fact smacking them around the ears and taking their lunch money. I would respectfully suggest that it might in fact be yourself that is out of touch 'with the times'.

Unless you are going to significantly increase the number of police on traffic work (say 2 to 3 times) it is not a practical use of limited resources. It is more effective to increase the effectiveness of the presence of a finite resource by having it wave a big stick menacingly than to make infinite resources available to track everybody's every move and provide kind words of guidance whenever they stray from the path.

Sounds like the nuns that were my teachers when I was at convent school, they could break a ruler across the palm of your hand LOL.