Are you registering your bike?

[Max Preload]

I would imagine there would be more bikers who are damaging their hearing more using ipods etc. rather than wind noise from travelling 100km/h.

That's no reason to not protect your hearing with earplugs when riding though. I mean, it might be the difference between going totally deaf and just a little deaf.

The doppler effect does not relate to the volume, it relates to the pitch. The distance between you and the bike relates to the volume.

Correct. But lower frequency carries better.

[FatHead]

At 600k a week it works out at just under $0.02 a k for me and this is how I get to work so would be stupid not to rego. Can totally understand others who only get to ride weekends to put their rego's on "hold".

I would be happier if they just charged all license holders an ACC levy of an appropriate amount for the classes they hold then leave our vehicle registration as a licensing fee ~$30 or whatever the administration charge is. Would save everyone including those fleet owners who pay for multiple vehicles and there would be no getting away from it if you want to keep your license.

My one k's worth of ACC

[Conquiztador]

I would be happier if they just charged all license holders an ACC levy of an appropriate amount for the classes they hold then leave our vehicle registration as a licensing fee ~$30 or whatever the administration charge is. Would save everyone including those fleet owners who pay for multiple vehicles and there would be no getting away from it if you want to keep your license.

And we all agree with you. Each one of us that were in Welly for the BIKEOI and most probably every one that could not make it. But that would work against plan #1 of this increase: To get $$'s in the gumments coffers. And seriously affect plan #2: The sale of ACC. So sadly, as long as National is in charge this will not happen.

[TygerTung]

I am not paying. I will warrent my bike, but I will not pay until they have a flat rate for all motor vehicle users with the exception of 50cc scooters which should be cheap as they don't count as real motor vehicles.

One option to consider is that you can register your bike under B class. It is really cheap as you don't pay any ACC levies on it. It's for farm vehicles or something. It's not a continuous licencing class either.

I believe B class works best for bikes and A class works best for cars.

I used to register my Corolla Wagon under A class as I never used to use it, only using it to tow some bikes to the track, usually riding my scooter/bike/pushbike or driving the wifes car if I needed a car. I just put a Michelin man sticker at each bottom corner of the windscreen which covered up where it said 'A' so it wasn't obvious.

You have to be careful when parking however as parking wardens will notice that you do not have the correct class of registration and issue you with a fine. I would imagine that if you implemented a similar scheme to the sticker method I described above you would be fine.

I got pulled over a few times with the A class on the corolla without the michellan man scheme implemented and only got fined once. The corolla being a 1975 orange model, lowered with mag wheels and a big exhaust did get pulled over more often than a generic car however.

[miloking]

Because "Doing A Runner", is inherently dangerous to everyone I share the road with, especially to myself. I'd rather be alive ta bitch about getting a ticket, than be a Patient on my own Ward (I work as an Orthopaedic, Bones, Nurse) in aggonising pain and being rightly given shit by the Nurses I work with for being a total stupid Dick Head, or worse (for my Family & friends) in the morgue proving ACC right that Bikers deserve to pay more

You really didn't think much at all in ya post. I seriously hope that you use a lot more clearer thinking than that when ya riding ya bike, because ya will not last long as a biker if ya don't

All i was reading were excuses why you need to pay whatever prices ACC asks for:
....riding to work, cops being all over bikes, demerits to go with rego fine (umm not realy) ...so my natural response is to take piss out of the post
Honestly i dont realy expect you to do a runner but what else to say apart from harden up and stand up to the "man" like the rest of us...(and i didnt want to say that because that would be rude!)

[miloking]

Fuck your a tossa !

Thanks for noticing (again) but i just cant read posts full of excuses why its ok to pay whatever ACC wants!..and not respond with something sarcastic.

[miloking]

I've been thinking about this a bit. I have decided that if I end up with two road bikes over 600cc, I will register one of them, and swap the plate over. Basically I can only ride one at a time, the "risk" to ACC is the same and I shouldnt have to pay twice to receive a "service" once. Not encouraging anyone else to do it, not making a particularly political stand (though it is in fact a political stand) and its not like I couldnt afford it. I just dont think its right, so I wont participate.

They just both need to be same color and same make at least otherwise already though about this...currently looking for track dedicated CBR and will put plate on it only when rididng it to pukekohe

[RiderInBlack]

Honestly i dont realy expect you to do a runner but what else to say apart from harden up and stand up to the "man" like the rest of us...(and i didnt want to say that because that would be rude!)

But ya still did. Running around without my rego will not prove my Manliness and my Hardness nor do I do see it as being effective to drawing NZér attention to The undermining of The Woodhouse Principles on which ACC was base, or that we are at clear risk of Loosing ACC to Insurance Companies. We need to draw NZ's attention to the bigger picture, and away from that it's "Just The Bikers Winging about they Reg Rises Again" IMHO. This action won't. But ya go ahead, thinking ya being The Man making a real difference by not paying ya reg, You can be expect the fine for running without a reg to go up, it to be policed harder, and ya can bet ya boot there will be demerits ta go with it. Mean while I will wait for some real action that draws NZ's Attention to the real issue.

[TygerTung]

Quote Originally Posted by RiderInBlack View Post
The Bike is my only vehicle, therefore my only means ta get ta work to earn the money I need ta live off. Therefore I can not afford ta be put off the road without my licence. Running around without a Rego, when ya can bet ya panties the Cops will be check all bikes for them, is just begging for them ta ticket me. Ya can also bet ya panties, that there will be demerits ta go with the ticket. It not the fine that worries me, it's the demerits. Hope ya can see where I'm going with this and will understand why I am keeping my bike's Rego up todate.

Is your GSX running on 3 cylinders or something??? why are you even stopping to "recieve" the fine?

He's got a point

[davereid]

Hope ya can see where I'm going with this and will understand why I am keeping my bike's Rego up to date.

He has got a point !

My pragmatic view is simpler than that.

At the moment there are no demerits, and the fine is much much much less than the cost of actually registering all my vehicles.

In the mean time, until nanny sorts out her shit, and works out a way of either consistently catching me for being unregistered, or scaring me with demerits, I'll be staying unregistered !

After all, my savings so far are about $2500- $3000. That will help if I ever get fined.

When I do need to register, at least I'll have a bit of spare money !.

Plan (b) is also in place. I'm selling all my bikes except the sporty. So when it gets to the point that I must register, I will be licensing only one.

[Pixie]

Quote Originally Posted by RiderInBlack View Post
The Bike is my only vehicle, therefore my only means ta get ta work to earn the money I need ta live off. Therefore I can not afford ta be put off the road without my licence. Running around without a Rego, when ya can bet ya panties the Cops will be check all bikes for them, is just begging for them ta ticket me. Ya can also bet ya panties, that there will be demerits ta go with the ticket. It not the fine that worries me, it's the demerits. Hope ya can see where I'm going with this and will understand why I am keeping my bike's Rego up todate.



He's got a point

Demerits are only awarded for road safety related offenses.


I'm going to licence my bike because I'm a good kiwi and I'm afraid the policeman will tell me off.
And I misplaced my spine somewhere.



Not really, fuck'em

[Pixie]

which contributes to more runners, double bugger.

perhaps the think tank should consider whether the cost of policing such laws outweigh the benefits gained.

The Think Tank was formerly a Septic Tank - that's why it's full of shit.

[Meanie]

Havnt read this whole thread but heres what i am doing
My wife and i both ride, i have put both bikes on hold for three months and will register them in time for the 4 points and summer for just 6 months, then put them on hold again for 6 months
I simply cannot afford to register two bikes anymore. And yes i will still ride them while on hold

[TygerTung]

The cops won't be pulling over bikes out of control. I have only once been pulled over on a bike, and that was when I was doing something dodgy.

I used to be a bit of a boy racer and had an old 1975 Corolla Wagon, and even then I only used to get pulled over rarely, and that was often because that my car may not have a WOF as it was a bit rough. I am not interested in cars whatsoever any more however, so don't hold it against me.

I don't really think that the police would care that much about pulling over bikes due to rego, and even if they did pull you over and notice that you had no registration, if you told them the reason, they may let you off.

[phantom]

For what its worth I pranged my car ( yes I am forced to drive one from time to time ) when it had neither warrant or rego,and apart from a stern hit on my wallet from the boys in blue the insurance company were reasonably happy to pay out as long as it wasn't relevant to the accident