Are you registering your bike?

[imdying]

Went online today and put mine on hold, it had actually expired a few weeks ago, so not so sure actually.

Yup, might be a 28 day grace period, but I get my wife to handle my exemptions (she does it online so presumably through your link?) and she's super efficient, so I've never been faced with that.

All I know is Swoop said his trailer had come off an exemption and he'd been told he had to relicense it or surrender the plates. As a trailer it's not subject to continuous licensing so no back dating, no WoF is required to be relicensed and it's two years from the last license exipry before the registration lapses. And mine came of exemption and I just re-exempted it.

My head just exploded

[Max Preload]

Yup, might be a 28 day grace period

As long as you exempt within 2 months of the expiry of the last exemption or license, license fees are not payable.

[Grant81]

The only problem with that thinking is compare how much are push bikers paying, then a car runs into them. Id love to see them collect LESS acc tax this year due to less registerations.

[Grant81]

good on you, thats what I would have done too

[racefactory]

Guys how much is the fine for riding with a plate from a dead bike?

I know you only need to put it on hold but I'm just wondering. Because if you get caught by any of these fucking unreasonable, hidden speed cameras at the bottom of steep hills then you get stung again for riding with a rego on hold.

[scracha]

You have a trouble with wind noise when you're wearing a helmet? I've never noticed it when I am riding a legal speed.

Yes. No matter how cheap or expensive the helmet...wind noise at 100K for a few hours at a time is not healthy. I can almost guarantee that in a few years time, you will regret the decision to not wear ear plugs. It's your choice though, I'd never want to be seen as lecturing someone. http://www.helmetstuff.com/helmet-noise.shtml

You've never been in a car and heard a sportsbike, particularly a V twin winding up to pass you? (let alone a harley etc.)

Generally not. I've sometimes dropped my moby, stopped eating or spilt my coffee when the bike thunders past due to the fright (as I've not heard it coming). Doppler effect and all that.

You've never been lane filtering and seen cars ahead of you move over to give you more room? granted some will be because they looked in the wing or rear view mirror, but I bet some are because they hear the bike coming.

I filtered in heavy UK traffic for many years. I've had stupidly loud bikes (748r with termis) and I've had stupidly quiet bikes (TDM850 stock pipes) and to be honest, the noise didn't make a single bit of difference. I did however find that my white GPX600 with a square headlight made more traffic move over because they though it was a police bike. Having flashing hazard lights and daytime running lights definitely made a difference whilst filtering but I still wouldn't never assume I've been seen by a cager.

You've never been lane filtering and pulled into a lane because you can hear someone behind you may want to filter a bit quicker than you?

Very rarely. More often than not I've seen them in my mirrors. Can hear things a lot better on a bike though and it's hardly a relevant point, as the idea is for the cars to hear you.

Loud pipes are definitely not a panacea and they are easily beaten by a car stereo at average volume, but I think there are times when they do provide early warning. They are not the defining reason to put one on your bike but I think there are times when they help.

Personally I think they're anti social, cause tiredness during long rides and attract unnecessary attention from arseholes and el federalis. Again, it's your choice.

[rastuscat]

And if every man jack goes out and puts their rego on hold what will happen, they will change the rules so you cant put them on hold ! A stunt like this will only push for more legeslation against bikers ! I currently have 5 plates on hold, both cars and bikes in various stage projects, do i want to see legeslation brought about that stops me being able to do this ? Rediculous question huh, cost me around 3 hundy for each plate if i have to go back over the pits, which will happen if too many ride (and get caught with plates on hold) ! By the way i think the fine is 200 for non reged bike but the fine goes up dramatically if you ride with a plate on hold, or will you be riding to get a warrent every time ?

It's already happening.

A think tank has suggested requiring anyone putting their reg on hold to hand in their plates when they do so. That way, you won't have a plate to use when your reg is on hold. If you don't hand your plate in, your bike stays on the Continuous Vehicle Licensing system.

Further, the same think tank is looking at demerit points and higher fines for those using a vehicle while it's allegedly on hold.

All this is in response to the boy racers who twigged to this scam months ago. The shitty Evos and Rexs are normally on hold, bringing the $200 fine which means nothing coz they don't pay fines anyway. The proposals above are to target that issue, but will sweep up bikers as well.

So you're right, widespread disobedience by some leads to harsher laws for all.

Bugger.

[bogan]

So you're right, widespread disobedience by some leads to harsher laws for all.

Bugger.

which contributes to more runners, double bugger.

perhaps the think tank should consider whether the cost of policing such laws outweigh the benefits gained.

[davereid]

A think tank has suggested requiring anyone putting their reg on hold to hand in their plates when they do so. That way, you won't have a plate to use when your reg is on hold. If you don't hand your plate in, your bike stays on the Continuous Vehicle Licensing system. Further, the same think tank is looking at demerit points and higher fines for those using a vehicle while it's allegedly on hold.

Of course to be effective this all assumes.. there are no old plates rocking around.. that boy racers or (anyone else for that matter) who won't pay fines, would care jack-shit about a (civil) debt collector chasing them for overdue rego fees... and that higher fines will deter those who don't pay fines...

And it doesn't solve ACCs main problem, which is that its not collecting the money it needs.

Even if the new system were 100% effective at collecting rego fees, it would simply reduce the number of registered vehicles on the road. This of course reduces ACCs income, but does not reduce its risk profile.

It all seems a complicated fuss, when ACC could collect every cent they need, from every road user, just by putting $0.12c on a litre of gas.

[RiderInBlack]

The Bike is my only vehicle, therefore my only means ta get ta work to earn the money I need ta live off. Therefore I can not afford ta be put off the road without my licence. Running around without a Rego, when ya can bet ya panties the Cops will be check all bikes for them, is just begging for them ta ticket me. Ya can also bet ya panties, that there will be demerits ta go with the ticket. It not the fine that worries me, it's the demerits. Hope ya can see where I'm going with this and will understand why I am keeping my bike's Rego up todate.

[miloking]

The Bike is my only vehicle, therefore my only means ta get ta work to earn the money I need ta live off. Therefore I can not afford ta be put off the road without my licence. Running around without a Rego, when ya can bet ya panties the Cops will be check all bikes for them, is just begging for them ta ticket me. Ya can also bet ya panties, that there will be demerits ta go with the ticket. It not the fine that worries me, it's the demerits. Hope ya can see where I'm going with this and will understand why I am keeping my bike's Rego up todate.

Is your GSX running on 3 cylinders or something??? why are you even stopping to "recieve" the fine?

[sinfull]

Is your GSX running on 3 cylinders or something??? why are you even stopping to "recieve" the fine?

Fuck your a tossa !

[RiderInBlack]

Is your GSX running on 3 cylinders or something??? why are you even stopping to "recieve" the fine?

Because "Doing A Runner", is inherently dangerous to everyone I share the road with, especially to myself. I'd rather be alive ta bitch about getting a ticket, than be a Patient on my own Ward (I work as an Orthopaedic, Bones, Nurse) in aggonising pain and being rightly given shit by the Nurses I work with for being a total stupid Dick Head, or worse (for my Family & friends) in the morgue proving ACC right that Bikers deserve to pay more.
You really didn't think much at all in ya post. I seriously hope that you use a lot more clearer thinking than that when ya riding ya bike, because ya will not last long as a biker if ya don't.

For the record, I am against the levy hikes to ACC, but it is not because I am a biker, it is because the Woodhouse Principle ACC is part of what makes living in NZ F*cken Great. I do not want to see that lost, just so ACC can be sold off to Off-Shore Insurance Companies who's only concern is to make a profit, while we end-up suing the shit out of each other over silliest shit to keep our insurance levies down,

[motor_mayhem]

Yes. No matter how cheap or expensive the helmet...wind noise at 100K for a few hours at a time is not healthy. I can almost guarantee that in a few years time, you will regret the decision to not wear ear plugs. It's your choice though, I'd never want to be seen as lecturing someone. http://www.helmetstuff.com/helmet-noise.shtml

I would imagine there would be more bikers who are damaging their hearing more using ipods etc. rather than wind noise from travelling 100km/h. Also note probably the most important place for others to hear you and you to hear others is built up areas were the speed limit tends to be 50km/h. And for lots who just use their bike for commuting, this is how fast they are going most of the time.

Generally not. I've sometimes dropped my moby, stopped eating or spilt my coffee when the bike thunders past due to the fright (as I've not heard it coming). Doppler effect and all that.

I filtered in heavy UK traffic for many years. I've had stupidly loud bikes (748r with termis) and I've had stupidly quiet bikes (TDM850 stock pipes) and to be honest, the noise didn't make a single bit of difference. I did however find that my white GPX600 with a square headlight made more traffic move over because they though it was a police bike. Having flashing hazard lights and daytime running lights definitely made a difference whilst filtering but I still wouldn't never assume I've been seen by a cager.

The doppler effect does not relate to the volume, it relates to the pitch. The distance between you and the bike relates to the volume. Though potentially some of the waves are disipated when they bounce off other vehicles or objects.
Should I be amused that you seem to be saying you didn't hear a bike when you were driving because you were eating or using a mobile phone, both of which are illegal because they would remove your focus from the task at hand?

Very rarely. More often than not I've seen them in my mirrors. Can hear things a lot better on a bike though and it's hardly a relevant point, as the idea is for the cars to hear you.

Well no, the idea is for all other road users to hear you. As someone else has already pointed out previously.

Personally I think they're anti social, cause tiredness during long rides and attract unnecessary attention from arseholes and el federalis. Again, it's your choice.

Attract unnecessary attention, yes unfortunately in some circles they do seem to be associated with people who like to do faster then they are allowed to, or rev their vehicle excessively. But that doesn't mean all users are like that.

[scumdog]

You've never been in a car and heard a sportsbike, particularly a V twin winding up to pass you? (let alone a harley etc.)

You've never been lane filtering and seen cars ahead of you move over to give you more room? granted some will be because they looked in the wing or rear view mirror, but I bet some are because they hear the bike coming.

Given a lot of people can't hear a locomotive horn or an emergency services vehicle on their rear bumper with the siren blasting I doubt the loud pipes will help much.

And often it is behind the bike that people hear the most noise - and associate noisy motorbike = said bike heading away.

Once in a blue moon maybe they could help but as you admit youself, not a panacea.