Damn scary - new ambulance probe

[RiderInBlack]

Here's an Idea. Instead of looking someone to blame, how about we get behind them and help by raising funds for a GPS unit for their Ambo. We could also help raise funds for them so they can fund the Ambo's better and Volunteer our help, so that they might be able to staff the Ambo's better.
Too many people spend too much time complaining about what is wrong and to little time trying to be part of the solution.
Bitch Less & Pitch In More is the best way to really get anything done.

[p.dath]

[FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=royalblue]Here's an Idea. Instead of looking someone to blame, how about we get behind them and help by raising funds for a GPS unit for their Ambo.

They said they wont allow them to have a GPS because it distracts the driver. It's not an issue about money, or getting behind them.

[FJRider]

Actually ... they don't allow GPS IF it distracts the driver ... one's with verbal alerts are allowed

[RiderInBlack]

They said they wont allow them to have a GPS because it distracts the driver. It's not an issue about money, or getting behind them.

I would disagree with ya there. Lack of funding and resources is why they can't afford to have two or more crew per Ambo for most call-outs. Because they often only have single crews, there is no-one spare ta monitor a GPS (well at least not without taking their eyes off the road). So exactly how is this not an Issue about money or resources?

[Ixion]

GPS navigation systems such as Navman are permitted as a navigation aid, so long as it does not distract from the safe operation of the vehicle. They are SOMETIMES purchased for the vehicle by various organisations, or the officers may use there own personal one. It is not standard practice for the company to purchase these items as the budget is not big enough to allow it at this point.

At the end of the day....two errors in nearly two years????? Sounds like a pretty low error rate to me.

Saw some the other day for $158 (new). Doesn't seem that big a hit in the context, but , granted, organisations like St Johns are sometimes running very close to the line. In which case, it could maybe be a good thing for bikers to organise a run to buy some. If the ambo bosses would allow them to be fitted. Cos, OK, two incidents that hit the big news in two years. But, I'd assume there'd be LOTS of incidents where the ambo spends an extra 5 or 10 minutes trying to find the address they're after. Probably usually no big deal, but 5 minutes is all eternity if you're watching a loved one in extremis and waiting. Cutting some of the "WTF is that street" has got to be good, surely

[Urano]

The problem I was alluding to was that the ambulance would not have a very expensive Satphone, seeing as how they didn't even have a GPS unit for their in vehicle navigation.

so there are budget problems (as everywhere...) and this...

Here's an Idea. Instead of looking someone to blame, how about we get behind them and help by raising funds for a GPS unit for their Ambo. We could also help raise funds for them so they can fund the Ambo's better and Volunteer our help, so that they might be able to staff the Ambo's better.

...is a good idea.


just a curiosity: is the ambu service public in there or you have private associations or volunteer associations?


... is growing in me the idea that much of your general difficulties, not in this field only, are caused by the fact that you are "FEW"...

[yungatart]

so there are budget problems (as everywhere...) and this...



...is a good idea.


just a curiosity: is the ambu service public in there or you have private associations or volunteer associations?


... is growing in me the idea that much of your general difficulties, not in this field only, are caused by the fact that you are "FEW"...

AFAIK St Johns is a private organisation, partly funded by Govt. They provide ambo services to about 85% of NZ. Manned by permanent and volunteer staff.
Wellington, Taranaki and Wairarapa have their own seperate ambo service.

[scracha]

Oh What is a rapid number?

Similar to a house number in town but indicates the distance along the road. I think they run from the most North or West direction.

In all fairness to the emergency services, you'd be gobsmacked how many people around here don't know their own rapid number. They give you their bleedin dairy number or describe it as the "Green roofed house after such and such intersection" etc etc. Makes GPS bloody useless and you end up looking at local farm maps (has peeps surnames) or Tumonz to find them.

Not that this makes any excuse for the ambo incident.


GPS :- Can't see how a nice lady squalking, "in 600m take the next road right" distracts anybody. Quite the opposite in fact as you can concentrate on driving and not wondering if you're at the 4th left turn or the 5th.

[Urano]

AFAIK St Johns is a private organisation, partly funded by Govt. They provide ambo services to about 85% of NZ. Manned by permanent and volunteer staff.
Wellington, Taranaki and Wairarapa have their own seperate ambo service.

so you have practically one association only to give the service to the most of nz?... and they have those service levels?...

...it would be great to organize an association to give ambu service with higher standards if you believe your area is not properly covered.

riderinblack had a good idea, but remember that you can decide the use of the founds you should raise up...

i'd be happy to help too, if needed...

[Urano]

double. again.

[The Moth]

If you need to know why my husband could not just drive me to hospital then you are a dick head for asking .As i was paralized from the waist down and carste on my bed i couldn't go any where i needed help big time and for you to say it was more than a cat 3 call some other dickhead made that call who assumed it was nothing . I have a thyroid medical condition and high blood pressure so pull your head keep your opinion to yourself. and as for the ambo i feel for him it wasnt his fault and i for gave him even if it was under the influence of laughing gas. getting really piss off with all the bullshit and the hollow sorrrys.

[Nasty]

The hollow sorrys never stop ... they are pathetic .. there are some real political issues happening up in the naki around the ambo service at the moment .. and hopefully they will resolve that shit soon and get a group in who are happy to provide service that should be there.

[The Moth]

The hollow sorrys never stop ... they are pathetic .. there are some real political issues happening up in the naki around the ambo service at the moment .. and hopefully they will resolve that shit soon and get a group in who are happy to provide service that should be there.

I havn't finished with them yet not the ambo but the dhb they need a great boot up the arse they are treating people like shit and i for one will not just lie down and take it,

[Naki Rat]

The hollow sorrys never stop ... they are pathetic .. there are some real political issues happening up in the naki around the ambo service at the moment .. and hopefully they will resolve that shit soon and get a group in who are happy to provide service that should be there.

The Taranaki District Health Board's shortcomings extent way beyond their ambulance service too. I can list numerous people who have had follow-up specialists' appointments run months overdue, and then it is often rectified by the patient following up rather than the hospital. That's bloody third world service and absolutely inexcuseable when it includes cancer treatments!

As I said to you Kari during our chat, the TDHB manager (Joy Farley) that I grilled a few days ago over the latest ambulance fiasco, couldn't or wouldn't realise that their ambulance system is fatally flawed due to equipment that is reliant on cellular or radio coverage, both of which don't exist in much of Taranaki's more 'challenging' country. In short she didn't want to know

[The Moth]

naki rat do i know you ?did you every come to our cafe when we where operating i would be interested to know what Ms Joy Farley has to say!!!! on the matter she sounds like a arogant bitch if you ask me.