Bike wants to pull wheelies with pillion passenger

**crystalball** · 22nd June 2010, 18:59

O.K here's my long story

Well I took my work mate to work today Papakura to East Tamiki. first time had a pillian on my bike. the front off the bike wanted to lift off the ground even at easy take offs.
At one set off lights i pulled to much throttle and pulled to decent wheelies.
i weigh about 63kg my work mate about 70kg and my pack rack bag full of gear about 30kg.i use to be a pillian on a bike way back for ages so i know how to be a pillian. taking my mate to work on my old zzr400 i had no issues at taking off. do use reakon my pack bag could be a major factor.i was thinking mayby he is sitting to far back. also thinking mayby the way i am using the throttle.i could feel the front wanting to lift with even easy take offs. also any links in here to pillians would be good. any help appreciated cheers.

**Cayman911** · 22nd June 2010, 19:06

Just sounds like too much weight over the back. if this is just happening when you had your mate and the rack on the back.

same thing as standing on the back pegs to get the bike to wheelie off.

**miloking** · 22nd June 2010, 19:09

Originally Posted by crystalball

O.K here's my long story

Well I took my work mate to work today Papakura to East Tamiki. first time had a pillian on my bike. the front off the bike wanted to lift off the ground even at easy take offs.
At one set off lights i pulled to much throttle and pulled to decent wheelies.
i weigh about 63kg my work mate about 70kg and my pack rack bag full of gear about 30kg.i use to be a pillian on a bike way back for ages so i know how to be a pillian. taking my mate to work on my old zzr400 i had no issues at taking off. do use reakon my pack bag could be a major factor.i was thinking mayby he is sitting to far back. also thinking mayby the way i am using the throttle.i could feel the front wanting to lift with even easy take offs. also any links in here to pillians would be good. any help appreciated cheers.

Its a safety mechanism to stop having two dudes on a bike... no realy try to keep to fuel tank full, it will make some difference also your rear shock might be set incorrectly for two up...

**schrodingers cat** · 22nd June 2010, 19:11

Tell the fat bastard to walk

**Mully** · 22nd June 2010, 21:46

Have some pies when you're on the front.

Your rear shock might be stuffed or badly set up. And the packrack is outside the wheelbase, so that wont help.

**R6_kid:Me** · 22nd June 2010, 22:22

The throttle goes both ways. You don't have to use it all at once. If you disrespect it, it will show you pain.

**98tls** · 22nd June 2010, 22:23

Note to self "never get on the back of your bike".

**jellywrestler** · 22nd June 2010, 22:24

try at least saddlebags better still a tankbag

**Swoop** · 22nd June 2010, 22:27

Originally Posted by crystalball

i weigh about 63kg my work mate about 70kg

Fuck sakes! Eat something!!

**Devil** · 23rd June 2010, 08:26

Originally Posted by crystalball

... and my pack rack bag full of gear about 30kg...

What the hell are you carrying? A sack of dead babies?

**Forum Ninja** · 23rd June 2010, 08:52

Originally Posted by Swoop

Fuck sakes! Eat something!!

Totally agree

**wysper** · 23rd June 2010, 10:31

Originally Posted by Devil

What the hell are you carrying? A sack of dead babies?

If I wasn't so morally outraged by that I would be laughing my arse off.

**imdying** · 23rd June 2010, 10:46

Originally Posted by crystalball

O.K here's my long story

Well I took my work mate to work today Papakura to East Tamiki. first time had a pillian on my bike. the front off the bike wanted to lift off the ground even at easy take offs.
At one set off lights i pulled to much throttle and pulled to decent wheelies.
i weigh about 63kg my work mate about 70kg and my pack rack bag full of gear about 30kg.i use to be a pillian on a bike way back for ages so i know how to be a pillian. taking my mate to work on my old zzr400 i had no issues at taking off. do use reakon my pack bag could be a major factor.i was thinking mayby he is sitting to far back. also thinking mayby the way i am using the throttle.i could feel the front wanting to lift with even easy take offs. also any links in here to pillians would be good. any help appreciated cheers.

Ok, long story short, it's a lack of skills. You might want to give carrying passengers a miss until you're down with how the throttle works; you should easily be able to ride with a passenger and no wheelies. But having said that, if you go over, you'll land on your passenger, so maybe a good way to practice your wheelies