Calling computer experts.

[Tank]

More rudeness and intentionally derogatory remarks from you. Thank fuck you don't breed more regularly - hateful, pointed, and targetting remarks, designed to be putdowns such as yours would just be the business to bring up little assholes who would penalise the rest of society for ever. Keep up the good work.

Funny how you are nice as pie when you have had a shit day, and times other than that you are a complete mongrel.

Steve

BTW - Didit you make a big waaaaing post about abuse - (receiving of course). Just for the hell of it - I hit report post on your one (why not - if I ever write a rude post - Im sure you would report me).

BUT 3 kids is enough - and yep Im sure that they would all correct your IT post as well - being that they are all more informed in IT than it would appear you are.

[Insanity_rules]

What do you mean, cloned? I can send mail from JK if I really wanted to (spoofing), it just won't come from his account and like you say he'll get failed messages returned to his email... I was more concerned that my account had been hacked, because the emails were sent to friends, family and businesses... for me it's odd because I don't maintain a contacts list, which means that my account has, at least, been scraped for email addresses... even more of a concern would be that someone hacked my email account and downloaded the contents of one or more folders... the downside is I'll never know what's been taken and will just have to wait til some fuckwit tries it again or clears my bank account out...

Spoofing you set your reply to address to what ever you want and the account from address to the same (You obivously understand this) but when the header is read you see that the originating server could be any old one. Cloning is when a spammer has many of the settings for the send out server (so it looks like msn in the header) and an appropriate address (an msn one) so that spam email looks a lot like legitimate email (correct address, correct source) and they don't need your log in details to do this. However they couldn't download or intercept your incoming email or read what you've sent without your password so your safe in that respect (unless they have it).

Its not that easy to hack passwords these days (unless you have a pretty nasty signature type trojan) as most email providers use ssl password translation and such so its pretty unlikely that they'd have it.

[mashman]

etc...

Thanks for the explanation... This is the first time in 12 years that i've had ANYTHING (not even a virus) happen to my pc or email account... funny how this has all of a sudden happened, having only recently been forced on to using a Vodafone Data Stick to stay online (ok not forced)... Can't wait to get my hardwired broadband back (tonight if Telecom are as good as their word ) ... But just in case it was the password I went on a password changing spree...

[avgas]

Almost all mainstream products are vulnerable. Basically it's just a matter of time until you get done, unless you can maintain a 99% up-to-date status with the latest cutting-edge tools, and that aint gunna be cheap.
Alternatively, stop using mainstream products.

Haha I love you using the term mainstream.
Doesn't count for anything after the 1980's.........
What is mainstream hacking? - someone who uses "/shutdown" or someone who uses "~kill all"..........
as for staying up-to-date.....i find www.download.com is a pretty good resource for windows users
or the newspaper for the rest of us.

[Elysium]

Ok I use Hotmail of course so I'm not really surprised to get hacked, virus, whatever. Luckly I have another email account with Slingshot so I at least have another and more secure email account. Ok I may be lame here but where in Windows Live Mail do go to change the password?

[mashman]

Ok I use Hotmail of course so I'm not really surprised to get hacked, virus, whatever. Luckly I have another email account with Slingshot so I at least have another and more secure email account. Ok I may be lame here but where in Windows Live Mail do go to change the password?

I did this the other morning but can't remember ha ha haaaaaaa... think i did it through my email account i.e. www.hotmail.com etc... change password

[jonbuoy]

Spoofing you set your reply to address to what ever you want and the account from address to the same (You obivously understand this) but when the header is read you see that the originating server could be any old one. Cloning is when a spammer has many of the settings for the send out server (so it looks like msn in the header) and an appropriate address (an msn one) so that spam email looks a lot like legitimate email (correct address, correct source) and they don't need your log in details to do this. However they couldn't download or intercept your incoming email or read what you've sent without your password so your safe in that respect (unless they have it).

Its not that easy to hack passwords these days (unless you have a pretty nasty signature type trojan) as most email providers use ssl password translation and such so its pretty unlikely that they'd have it.

If your on unsecured wifi password hacking isn´t so hard - by default Gmail used to be plain old HTTP for logins which meant passwords were sent in clear unless you enabled HTTPS mode in your settings, promiscuous packet sniffing would grab it. Not to mention faked login webmail pages.

[Insanity_rules]

If your on unsecured wifi password hacking isn´t so hard - by default Gmail used to be plain old HTTP for logins which meant passwords were sent in clear unless you enabled HTTPS mode in your settings, promiscuous packet sniffing would grab it. Not to mention faked login webmail pages.

True and there is a very real risk with both those senarios. I've seen some stupidity around securing wifi in my time and with people clicking links in emails truely believing that gmail meeded them to reset their password.

[jonbuoy]

True and there is a very real risk with both those senarios. I've seen some stupidity around securing wifi in my time and with people clicking links in emails truely believing that gmail meeded them to reset their password.

Yup for some reason it doesn´t seem to be common knowledge just how risky shared wifi can be.

[The Stranger:Me]

More rudeness and intentionally derogatory remarks from you. Thank fuck you don't breed more regularly - hateful, pointed, and targetting remarks, designed to be putdowns such as yours would just be the business to bring up little assholes who would penalise the rest of society for ever. Keep up the good work.

Funny how you are nice as pie when you have had a shit day, and times other than that you are a complete mongrel.

Steve

You told me you had Tank on your ignore list when you asked me to remove my sig.
Make your mind up woman.

[Tank]

You told me you had Tank on your ignore list when you asked me to remove my sig.
Make your mind up woman.

Nope - cannot be on his ignore list - he red reps me too much.

BTW - Glad that you like the sig - I think it some of my better work - I wonder how many other people DB has asked to remove sigs????

[The Stranger:Me]

Nope - cannot be on his ignore list - he red reps me too much.

BTW - Glad that you like the sig - I think it some of my better work - I wonder how many other people DB has asked to remove sigs????

Yes, definitely good work there sir. Clear, concise and of course entirely accurate.

I was considering doing a trade. I remove my sig if he releases the poor dumb arses who actually agreed with him once from the eternal embarrassment of his sig. But no, let that serve as a warning to others - don't agree with anything DB says lest ye be forever added to the list of fools.