ACC protest movement dead?

[Waxxa]

I know quite a few riders that are saying "F U! I would rather risk a $200 fine from the MOT than hand over $$s to ACC".

Unfortunately Buellbabe not registering your bike is a futile exercise. IF the fine of $200 for no rego remains (and I would be very suprised that this fine wont increase in line of the rego increase) you will be stung for $200 which wont go towards your rego. On top of that, if you dont keep your rego current, then you wont be able to get a WOF issued and another $200 fine.

So straight away you are up for $400, none of which will go towards your warrant or rego and this can be issued by a parking warden, you dont have to be riding and doing anything wrong.

So for the sake of another $150 or so dollars plus $35 for a warrant you are defeating yourself!

The increase is 'Bullshit' but we are caught by the short and curlies here. There is nothing us bikers can do but we should keep or bikes road legal all the same (and for insurance purposes too).

[gazmascelle]

as far as i know you dont need rego to get a wof, as long as your bike isnt deregistered. aside from that i agree though. Insurance is probably the only reason i bother paying my rego anymore (which im happy to have, especially after someone reversing into my bike last weekend). Although im not sure what my policy says about rego,.

[MSTRS:Me]

On top of that, if you dont keep your rego current, then you wont be able to get a WOF issued and another $200 fine.

Other way round. You MUST have a WOF to be able to rego.

(and for insurance purposes too).

Usually, insurance is not dependent on rego status.
Generally, only stuff that had a bearing on the accident is considered for declining cover (like not being in WOFable condition - with or without a current WOF sticker).
Individual insurers may vary.

[Brian d marge]

Unfortunately Buellbabe not registering your bike is a futile exercise. IF the fine of $200 for no rego remains (and I would be very suprised that this fine wont increase in line of the rego increase) you will be stung for $200 which wont go towards your rego. On top of that, if you dont keep your rego current, then you wont be able to get a WOF issued and another $200 fine.

So straight away you are up for $400, none of which will go towards your warrant or rego and this can be issued by a parking warden, you dont have to be riding and doing anything wrong.

So for the sake of another $150 or so dollars plus $35 for a warrant you are defeating yourself!

The increase is 'Bullshit' but we are caught by the short and curlies here. There is nothing us bikers can do but we should keep or bikes road legal all the same (and for insurance purposes too).

Can you verify that , as there seems to be a bit of confusion
Stephen ( under the impression that the rego is independent of Wof )

[MSTRS:Me]

Can you verify that , as there seems to be a bit of confusion
Stephen ( under the impression that the rego is independent of Wof )

What is so confusing?

A vehicle must be Vinned or Wof'd (and pass) before it can be registered or renewed.

[bogan]

Can you verify that , as there seems to be a bit of confusion
Stephen ( under the impression that the rego is independent of Wof )

I did a few years ago when I went to get my rego on the way to getting a wof. Answer was no rego before wof.

WOF then (if you want) REGO.

[Waxxa]

I did a few years ago when I went to get my rego on the way to getting a wof. Answer was no rego before wof.

WOF then (if you want) REGO.

Ah, is that what it is! I knew there was some link-up between the two.

regardless, it is futile not to register your bike.

Question: If you dont register your bike for say 3 months (not counting de-registering the bike) and then go and get it registered, do you have to pay up the 3 months that has elapsed before you can register the bike for the coming months ahead?

[Bald Eagle]

Ah, is that what it is! I knew there was some link-up between the two.

regardless, it is futile not to register your bike.

Question: If you dont register your bike for say 3 months (not counting de-registering the bike) and then go and get it registered, do you have to pay up the 3 months that has elapsed before you can register the bike for the coming months ahead?

If you don't put it on hold yes you do - see the nzta web re "vehicles requiring to be continuously licensed"

[Maha]

Ah, is that what it is! I knew there was some link-up between the two.

regardless, it is futile not to register your bike.

Question: If you dont register your bike for say 3 months (not counting de-registering the bike) and then go and get it registered, do you have to pay up the 3 months that has elapsed before you can register the bike for the coming months ahead?

No you dont, if its on hold, for say three months, you get a new rego form in the mail three weks before the 'on hold' expires.

[buellbabe]

Perhaps I should have been clearer, when I mentioned not registering I actually meant putting it ON HOLD and then continuing to ride and risking a fine.

Answer to question is NO you do not have to pay for the previous 3 months that the rego has been on hold UNLESS you re-register WITHIN the on-hold period. So it is NOT FUTILE to juggle your regos and put on hold to suit yourself. This is obviously more useful if you own more than one bike/vehicle.

If you actually do a bit of pre-planning (which I have done!) then you can work out when you want which bike on/off the road and its easy to get the rego period to suit cos all ya have to do is go into a land transport agent and fill out the form that gives you the option of CHANGING the rego expiration date. You can change it for to add as little as an extra day orany time up to an extra 15 mths...

And to refute another comment made.

Having no rego does NOT null and void my insurance.

[MSTRS:Me]

There appears to be some confusion over rego on hold or not...

Your rego is due on (say) 1.10.10. You do nothing, and let the date come and go. 4 months later, on 1.2.11, you think "Shit! I must get the bike rego'd" It will cost you for every day of that 4 months before you get a new rego that takes you forward.

If you had put your rego on hold before 1.10.10, it is simply on hold and there is a 3 month minimum period that this can last. If you want to 'go live' within that period, you will have to pay rego for the lapsed time as well. As the 'on hold' period approaches 12 months I think you get a new rego account sent out. You then pay, or renew the hold.

If your rego is overdue, and not on hold, and then you sell the vehicle, YOU are liable for the arrears, not the new owner.

[buellbabe]

Yea no confusion here mate...I fully understand the whole "on hold" thing and I am using it to my advantage.
Also as I mentioned, I am extending the expiring date when it suits. Like I said its a bit of juggling but I am damned if ACC are gonna get anymore $$s from me than the bare minimum I have no choice in parting with.

[buellbabe]

Also to clarify how I am making the extension of the registration work for me.
Example: My X1 rego runs out a week before the Buell rally in November, I am planning on putting it on hold over Summer for some routine maintenance and ride the CR instead...
BUUUUUT I wanna take the X1 to the Rally so before the rego actually expires I will be going into my local VTNZ and filling out the form (MR21??? I think) and will extend the rego to cover the week leading up to the rally and a few days afterward.

Cheaper than going online and re-registering for the minimum 3 month period when I only need it to be legal long enuf to get to the Rally and back...

Also I don't have the Rego reminder form in front of me at the mo but am I right or wrong in thinking that if you do it in person rather than online, that the printed form lets you re-new your rego for a minimum of 1 month??? Even if that is the case I am still saving myself dollars.

[buellbabe]

Me again, rather than edit my last post I will just add another...dunno why I thought there was a 1 month period...blonde moment... its definately minimum of 3 mth renewal.
So my point is that I am making the system work for me!

[SMOKEU]

Having no rego does NOT null and void my insurance.

It does with my insurance company (NAC), so I'm going to go shopping around for another policy.