2010 BRONZ AGM, Wednesday 21 July 2010

[Katman]

But I only saw 1 person standing for each position!! I didn't see any opposition to the candidates or any input whatsoever for any sort of change.

Makes something of a joke of the whole election process, doesn't it?

[Reckless]

Makes something of a joke of the whole election process, doesn't it?

Nope the joke is if you don't agree and don't do something for change or stand in opposition?

Go Figure it out ?

That's it for me, I've said my piece you will have to have the last word so flame away! LOL!!!

Night all!

[fossil]

Yep I did and was either the only new face there or one of two?? Big Daves earlier estimate of 15 was over the top as there where about 13 or 14 there, total, including Les! Just shows how many actually give a shit! And before you bleaters get stuck in saying there's no faith in them, which is why you didn't go, it would have only taken 10 of you to get off your arses and turn up to change all the votes to your agenda, come up with new motions, vote whoever you wanted on the committee and even become chairman??

Quite frankly IMHO the job you guys are expecting this very small group to do on behalf of you guys and motorcycling is simply to much to ask in time by itself, let alone they only have funds from 240 members to play with. If you take some of the committee out that have enough to do just being secretary, treasurer, web site development or running the training school program etc, there's stuff all people left for the volume of work that's needed to really make the organisation grow and even implement the pretty good ideas that where presented by the committee themselves. They have jobs and lives to!

There where some good ideas but as I didn't put my hand up to go on the committee ( the only one in the room that didn't) and because of a whole lot of being newly single adjustments goin on in my world at the moment, its not my place to comment on what was discussed.

So all in all, you guys can bleat on Kiwibiker as much as you want but until you start your own chapters, go to the meetings, actually get involved and put your ideas and time in, stuff all is going to change as fast as you want it to. Actually it would take bugger all effort if there where a few of you to make more things happen. And from what I could see of the first meeting I've ever been to, they would welcome the input and involvement. Bronze have enough to do trying formulate submissions to fend off stupid bureaucratic laws like any windscreen over x area needs a windsrceen wiper?? Which meant your new GSXR would have to have a bloody windscreen wiper.

So I learned a few things:
1/- They actually do a lot more behind the scenes than I ever thought.
2/- There's very few bikers that actually give a shit ( about 12 in the whole of Auckland!) Most would rather bend over and take it up the arse than come out on a cold rainy Wednesday night.
3/- The people at that meeting would dearly like to be a proactive orgainisation, not a reactive one. But think about it, the liaison required just to interface and knit together the factions of motorcycling alone ie, Ulysses, HOG etc etc is a full time job on its own. Let alone Marketing, rallies, safety training, Safety campaigns, membership drives, promoting membership at race meetings, bike shows, shops and other events. Then dealing with ACC and/or govt and all the other stuff being called for in previous posts.

Look I know I've written a book above and probably left myself wide open to be quoted out of context and some of you aren't going to like what I have said!
But fuck it! I'm not on the committee and don't have to defend or justify my 2c above!
Rightly or wrongly I'm just telling it like I saw it and I'm not very good at this stuff!!!
IMHO Bikers only have themselves to blame (including me) for not being more in control of our own world.

Edit: I've just reread what I posted and it comes across a bit angry! Just let me say I'm not, the written word is sometimes harsh without the body language. And the meeting was as Dave said positive and pleasant!But I get the impression some are simply expecting to much from people giving a lot already.

Bugger,
It must be personally disappointing for those who attended to know that their hard work is not supported or appreciated.

[Katman]

Nope the joke is if you don't agree and don't do something for change or stand in opposition?

Go Figure it out ?

That's it for me, I've said my piece you will have to have the last word so flame away! LOL!!!

Night all!

It was within BRONZ's power to send out, via email to every member they have addresses for, a list of names of candidates with a brief statement from each about what they would like to see achieved in motorcycling. It may have been an incentive for members to make themselves available to vote for someone they indentified with.

[Pixie]

I'd like to see a bit more unity within motorcycling, more communication between all the clubs out there...

I'd like to see us push to reinstate and get back on the Motorcycle Reference group as well as any of the others... Why? Because I'd like to see BRONZ more able get there say in before the decisions are made by higher powers. This will invariably involve cleaning up our own backyard (something i want to see happen) but i'd rather we were able to set the direction than have them do it for us...

More members, would be good to see some fresh faces at the blood & toy runs, at the monthly meetings etc

What do you mean "Clean up our back yard?"
All this placation of the arseholes that are trying to ban motorcycling is starting to give me the shits.
Do the AA have to clean up their backyard because there are pillocks in cars that kill themselves?

[Pixie]

Well,I discovered this thread today the 24th.
Some of us don't spend our lives on KB.
I am a member of BRONZ and have received emails from them in the past,but I did not receive any notification of the AGM.

If BRONZ wants to increase membership they need to be seen to be doing something.not having poorly attended meetings and sending out emails on what committees they have become members of.
MAG in Aussie got membership when they started to cause trouble for politicians.

[Pixie]

Makes something of a joke of the whole election process, doesn't it?

Seeing as this thread is about the BRONZ Auckland AGM,when is the BRONZ Taupo AGM scheduled?

[Big Dave]

Next time we'll send a Limo Pix.

I get regular news emails from Hanne. Perhaps she or Squiggles can give you revised sign up details when they check the thread. And make sure it's linked suitably on the BRONZ site.

A couple of things we talked about were 'taking it online' somehow and accepting memberships on the web site.

Mr Outlawtorn is working through that process - on time and efforts he donates to the cause. We've also set up a news blog which Hanne has just started uploading and archiving yesterday

http://bronzcoms.blogspot.com


The problem is - with all due respect to those that have actually 'done' something - is that it's simply easier to moan about shit online.

'The election process is a joke' - It is. It involves finding enough people to volunteer to fill the positions. And thank goodness for them and the sterling results they have achieved.

The organisation, and the skeleton staff who man it, are just as capable of getting the type of results that are achieved elsewhere - and from the Bikeoi standpoint - here too.

None of those involved are adverse to doing things a different way, trying new ideas, changing the organization - whatever it would take to get a dynamic consultative group.

The main thing it lacks is membership.

$20.