Super Tenere 1200

[BMWST?]

True, to a degree. I have found however, my KTM doesn't seem to be able to handle what I ask of it (which I didn't think was a very tall ask at all). Due to my own restrictions on working with dealers and brands, my options are limited (but my own doing).

I've also ridden several ADV Katooms and didn't like them as much. Better for riding up that river no doubt but I could only describe them as 'harsh' machines. I don't want to race.

Intersting.I rode a 950 SM(T?) and i didnt like it.It was fantastic if you were hard on the gas or brakes or scooting through corners,but it sure didnt feel happy just cruisin along.What is it about your KTM that you dont like Gremlin?.I still look at the 990 adv with interest

[Big Dave]

Intersting.I rode a 950 SM(T?) and i didnt like it.It was fantastic if you were hard on the gas or brakes or scooting through corners,but it sure didnt feel happy just cruisin along.What is it about your KTM that you dont like Gremlin?.I still look at the 990 adv with interest

Oscar et al slip-slide their way along with great skill whereas I'm a dirt plonker. Horses courses.

I'd like a SM990 and the Aprilia 1200 Dorsoduro sounds like me too.

[Gremlin]

Intersting.I rode a 950 SM(T?) and i didnt like it.It was fantastic if you were hard on the gas or brakes or scooting through corners,but it sure didnt feel happy just cruisin along.What is it about your KTM that you dont like Gremlin?.I still look at the 990 adv with interest

Well... to be brutal... it keeps breaking. I've broken the rear subframe twice already, first time took around a year to be properly broken (33,000km), second time took about 8500km and it was showing signs of cracking. I've broken a sump bolt, sheared right off, another was on the way to following it, lost all the bolts holding an exhaust can onto the bike (must have been vibes?) and dinged the front wheel. While Marchesini wheels, they're supposed to be strong. The way its been described to me, I needed to pull a wheelie, then land into the curb... uh... didn't do that, there would have been a lot of bruising Can only guess the superior suspension is hiding the real impact from potholes etc.

Take my experience with a few grains of salt. I do put the bike through its paces (even seems I overheated the suspension fluids) but its the best bike I've owned, created a high standard for bikes to live up to... just wonder if something else would offer the great handling, ability etc, without the breaking...

edit: oh, and its been reasonably modded. SMT seat (stock for long distance, jail might have been easier) and pannier racks, and some electronic goodies and some other things. Got the shop going up the line to find out how much the alternator can generate (max of 450W at 6k rpm, need to know 4k) because I want to add something more. On that note, it is good. TWO auxiliary circuits, 10A each. Using half of each already.

[Devil]

Heh, thats why they called KTM. Keep Throwing Money.
Bolts falling off is just life for KTM's.

That said, i'd buy one again.

[Gremlin]

Heh, thats why they called KTM. Keep Throwing Money.
Bolts falling off is just life for KTM's.

If you want to see a grown man cry, this is about as good a method as any. Last service was a big one, suspension also serviced. 17hrs labour from memory, totalled out at $2140 ish.

[NZsarge]

If you want to see a grown man cry, this is about as good a method as any. Last service was a big one, suspension also serviced. 17hrs labour from memory, totalled out at $2140 ish.

WTF! :slap: I'd be asking for a $1500 discount.

[Big Dave]

Last big service on my Buell was around $280. It does need a trip to Norm Cobb though. Rear shock is a bit weepy.

There are reasons I own the Thunderstorm motor more than just the character of it.

[NordieBoy]

They slide lovely. The six is like a turbine on gravel and it's all low down mass.

Lots and lots of low down mass.

[Squiggles]

If you want to see a grown man cry, this is about as good a method as any. Last service was a big one, suspension also serviced. 17hrs labour from memory, totalled out at $2140 ish.

Coulda bought half a dr for that

[Night Falcon]

They slide lovely. The six is like a turbine on gravel and it's all low down mass.

I like it....what they like on river crossings though??

[Big Dave]

The sign or the right says road flooded, but I saw it to read 'opportunity'.

Riding on my own. 400+ kg bike. And a swamp.

OK, bad opportunity.

Let's just say I'm glad it had reverse gear and that hill looks steeper riding back up it.

[junkmanjoe]

you got reverse .....................

wish i had reverse a couple time...... but i just do a 95 point U turn and we good..

JMJ

[marks]

Yamaha make a better adventure-tourer for NZ conditions than the super 10

the TDM900

[pete376403]

It stacks up about $6K more than a KLR for no big difference in spec or performance. Looks way uglier though.

Cheers
Clint

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[warewolf]

the TDM900

Yeah I's bin thinking the same thing. I had a 1992 TDM850 and really enjoyed it (geez that's nearly 20 years ago !! ). About 200kg dry weight. I remembering it being top heavy but not heavy. I think I'd get a later 900 as a two-up machine rather than an old boxer... far, far more dynamic package it seems.

How do people rate the F800GS vs the litre-plus bikes (super ten et al)?