The ACC saga - a new approach.

[davereid]

And when they finally do just that you can sit back and pat yourself on the back and say "well at least I didn't cave in to the fuckers".

You can lick their arse all you like, it won't help ya.

Some of us will be fighting for our right to do something dangerous just for fun.

Americans will still be fighting compulsory helmet laws, and riding their bikes, long after they are banned for safety reasons here.

[yachtie10]

This thread is getting good
Im agreeing with people I usally dont

ADs in magazines while a good idea is probably a waste of time. Now get the internet banned especially Youtube then you might get somewhere

[That looks like fun]

If you always do what you've always done, you will always get what you have always got.
Legislation is not the miracle cure the education systems we currently employ have limited effect Has domestic violence stop since they said it was naughty on TV?
People need to buy into a belief system before they will follow it. As no two people are the same it is impossible to find a magic "cure all" That doesn't mean we shouldn't try.
I may be oversimplifying it but I believe that the simplest tool to motivate people to desire to change is "coin" pure and simple. Even those who despise wealth, the man and the system, at the deepest root worship the might of the "coin" After all if it wasn't important we would all part with it and pay our ACC with no gripes.
Create the desire, reap the rewards. How much simpler can it get. Seems that this may already have started happening reading some of the posts.
Anyway if it doesn't work we can always just continue slagging off everyone that disagrees with our particular version of "right"

[flyingcrocodile46]

Here's a question for you and your two ostrich mates..........

If motorcycling continues to be noticed solely for it's nuisance value by the powers that be, and more and more legislation is introduced to curtail your motorcycling freedom (far more so than this thread ever will), at what point would you suddenly sit back and think "shit, maybe we should have done something about this sooner"?

The funny thing is that the purpose of this thread is to try and avoid the very thing you all are so vehemently opposed to happening.

That sort of weak willed rational sees the gradual erosion of our liberties as concession after concession is made by by well meaning meddlesome busy bodies such as yourself who are too weak to take the hard line and say. NO! You shall not limit my life experiences with your nanny state mentality.

[carver]

This thread is getting good
Im agreeing with people I usally dont

ADs in magazines while a good idea is probably a waste of time. Now get the internet banned especially Youtube then you might get somewhere

yes yes, ban all the MFSC movies while you are at it

[Katman]

That sort of weak willed rational sees the gradual erosion of our liberties as concession after concession is made by by well meaning meddlesome busy bodies such as yourself who are too weak to take the hard line and say. NO! You shall not limit my life experiences with your nanny state mentality.

So how far did you get in saying "NO! You shall not tell me I can't have a loud exhaust"?

How far did you get by saying "NO! You shall not make me ride with my headlight on all the time"?

How far did you get by saying "NO! You shall not unfairly target motorcyclists via their ACC levies"?

You're not doing too well so far, are you?

And don't even get me started on the "NO! You shall not tell me I can't smack my child" and "NO! You shall not tell me I can't smoke here".

You seem to have this belief that you're sticking it to the man but in fact you're meekly rolling over every time.

[Katman]

The fact of the matter is that by taking the initiative and trying to chart our own future we are regaining some of the power that has been gradually eroding.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Great! I accuse you of being the same sort of soft cock as those who have willingly laid down with the Nanny State and voluntarily conceded the freedoms of others by tipping the scale of popular opinion in the favour of the PC police (as has happened previously over many of the issues which you referred to) and you come up with...

You seem to have this belief that you're sticking it to the man but in fact you're meekly rolling over every time.

Fer f*cks sake... What would be the point in my rolling over when idiots like you have already launched themselves face first to our rescue, eagerly swallowing the load for the rest of us.

Congratulations you win the weekly double No YUO & IKYABWAI awards.

[mashman]

The fact of the matter is that by taking the initiative and trying to chart our own future we are regaining the power that has been gradually eroding.

now that's guido fawkesian Katman... you could get in trouble for that.

[Katman]

Congratulations you win the weekly double No YUO & IKYABWAI awards.

So what exactly do you think you've achieved so far?

You shake your fists in the air and foam at the mouth at the powers that be while they smugly take away your freedom piece by piece.

And you think I'm the deluded one?

[flyingcrocodile46]

you think I'm the deluded one?

No. I know you are.

It is you that is mandating limitations here. On what basis are you doing so? Where are the communists Mr Hoover? Please point them out for me... No, on second thoughts, Don't.

Don't be such a puppet.

[Katman]

No. I know you are.

It is you that is mandating limitations here. What basis are you doing so? Where are the communists Mr Hoover?

Don't be a puppet.

You're the one rolling over and offering yourself up for a shafting.

[flyingcrocodile46]

You're the one rolling over and offering yourself up for a shafting.

We already covered that. There is no need while your there to swallow. All I gotta do is smoke the cigarette

[Ocean1]

at what point would you suddenly sit back and think "shit, maybe we should have done something about this sooner"?

What perverted sense of adequacy leads you to believe that your "something done" is a viable response let alone the only one?

The funny thing is that the purpose of this thread is to try and avoid the very thing you all are so vehemently opposed to happening.

The funny thing is that your toadying, kowtowing noise would encourage those who might wish to foist that “protective” legislation on everyone, including you. It would worry me if I thought for a second that your opinion or mine were of the slightest interest to them.

The correct response to officious regulation is to act as if it doesn’t exist. There’s plenty in force already, and so far that’s working just fine for me. Even more unreasonable and restrictive rules on the way? Fine, all the more people find it easy to ignore them.

At what point do they give up trying to lock up a significant percentage of their population to satisfy arseholes who think they know my business better than me?

[flyingcrocodile46]

The funny thing is that the your toadying, kowtowing noise would encourage those who might wish to foist that “protective” legislation on everyone, including you.

Corr.. makes my calling him a 'puppet' seem pretty low brow. Lol