To Speed Triple or not Speed Triple

[Stirts]

I took my first test ride on a Speed Triple yesterday.

I was totally at home in the first 5 minutes.

Jap bikes just don't have the x factor. The SV is functional but boring.

I just think at the price, for a brand new bike..... it's just too hard to resist......I hate sensibility

Sounds to me like you have already made your mind up mister

Don't be a pussy. Get one!

What this very wise man said!!!!

I went from the ER6 to my Speedy and I don't regret it all!!! It has taken me a wee while to get used to the weight, and the slightly different riding style - but that bike is sexiness personified and I just love riding it. Can I, as a rider use all she has to offer? - hell no - but I am sure as hell going to enjoy learning how to!!!

JUST FARKING BUY IT!!!

[davebullet]

The Busa was a shop demo with only a few kms. It was run in by http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...00#post1842900 . I would not be brave enough to run in a Busa the way the motor should be bedded in. Needless to say it runs beautify.

Re the Speed Triple it ran well, used no oil, and I can only believe following the run in procedure was right. As far as running it in correctly this must be done in the first few kms. If the motor is nursed for the first 50 -100 kms the damage is done. The best you can hope for is the mechanic gave it a good strop in the road test after assembly.

Thanks for that. Apparently it is still crated up. I'll inform the dealer about what I want to be done to it when they run it up for the 2nd time (1st I'm assuming was at the factory when they tested the rev limiter and each gear)

I read all about it and related procedures. Also people's experience on thespeedtriple.com using the technique. Two on their reported a beautiful running engine with no oil burning problems.

Like you said - it appears babying your engine and the damage is done in the first 50 - 100kms.

The post also showed metal bits in the oil after the first 30kms - yes 30kms! The guy there recommended changing it way before the 1,000km first service (and a few times at that).

Also mentioned running mineral oil - not synthetic to allow the ring / bore bed in to occur properly.

[davebullet]

Sounds to me like you have already made your mind up mister



What this very wise man said!!!!

I went from the ER6 to my Speedy and I don't regret it all!!! It has taken me a wee while to get used to the weight, and the slightly different riding style - but that bike is sexiness personified and I just love riding it. Can I, as a rider use all she has to offer? - hell no - but I am sure as hell going to enjoy learning how to!!!

JUST FARKING BUY IT!!!

Sounds like you made a similar step. I just can't bear to commit it to commuting! Although I do have the sexy bright orange high vis vest to go with the burnt orange paint job

[imdying]

I thought all that faffing about had disappeared 10 years ago? Don't you just ride them, get the first service done, and keep riding them? Buy a Honda; run it in any way you like. The more I hear about the 675 motor, the more it sounds like a badly designed/buiilt piece of crap from the 80s... but having said that, does it really matter? Do you plan to own it forever? Just rape it, sell it, get another one

[Stirts]

I just can't bear to commit it to commuting!

I don't commute, but that is purely because it would be all of 4kms and a straight line - and I can't be arsed getting up in the wee hours of the morning to add a ride to my commute to make it worth while. Although given that the Speedy is a wheelie monster, it could make that commute rather fun - maybe one day yeah right. Never had any issues when commuting through Aucks and the carpark they call the motorway.

Although I do have the sexy bright orange high vis vest to go with the burnt orange paint job

You know you said that with your outer voice aye

[F5 Dave]

. . .
Things I noticed....
- Speedy is nearly as bumpy over rough surfaces as the SV. This was most suprising as I expected a plusher ride... but of course that isn't what a Speed triple is about
. . .

Now I've never ridden a speed, but if the forks are anything like my 1050 Tiger there is a good reason. The valving is super crude, adjustment can't help. Racetech valving kit from the good doctor will sort it. Not what you wanted to hear when you hadn't bought it, but worth it if you do.

The real question is: do you have the disposable coin?. If not, are you prepared to buy it with interest?

I'd rather keep an older bike & buy with cash at a later date. $12k borrowed could end up costing you $18k by dusting time.

[IdunBrokdItAgin]

I thought all that faffing about had disappeared 10 years ago? Don't you just ride them, get the first service done, and keep riding them? Buy a Honda; run it in any way you like. The more I hear about the 675 motor, the more it sounds like a badly designed/buiilt piece of crap from the 80s... but having said that, does it really matter? Do you plan to own it forever? Just rape it, sell it, get another one

Off topic: What's the 675 motor got to do with the speed triple? They are talking about the 1050 motor.

Back on topic: Dave - buy the speed triple.

P.s. Saw you (Cloggy pointed you out) checking out my street triple at the rimatuka lookout on saturday (the black street with the scratch on the aftermarket exhaust) - could tell then that you were thinking of buying a triumph.

[Stirts]

Now I've never ridden a speed, but if the forks are anything like my 1050 Tiger there is a good reason. The valving is super crude, adjustment can't help. Racetech valving kit from the good doctor will sort it. Not what you wanted to hear when you hadn't bought it, but worth it if you do.

Apparently so - Nodrog owned my Speedy prior to me and he had full racetech fork internals including springs and gold valves done. I beleive that it made quite a difference.

The real question is: do you have the disposable coin?. If not, are you prepared to buy it with interest?

I'd rather keep an older bike & buy with cash at a later date. $12k borrowed could end up costing you $18k by dusting time.

Shhhhhhhhhhhhh, his sensibility was almost KO'd

[davebullet]

Now I've never ridden a speed, but if the forks are anything like my 1050 Tiger there is a good reason. The valving is super crude, adjustment can't help. Racetech valving kit from the good doctor will sort it. Not what you wanted to hear when you hadn't bought it, but worth it if you do.

The real question is: do you have the disposable coin?. If not, are you prepared to buy it with interest?

I'd rather keep an older bike & buy with cash at a later date. $12k borrowed could end up costing you $18k by dusting time.

Re the suspension, I've figured as much. I have some fork cartridge emulators for the SV I've never bothered putting in.

I would be paying in cold hard cash. I never buy depreciating assets on tick (a false economy).

I would have money left over to do suspension and other mods... but I'd first rather just get to know the bike, get intimate (that sounds sick, but if I'm honest, I'm a sick person deep down).

The rest is going to have to be spent on the ridicu-louse ACC levies / license fee and shitty insurance companies who do not have a clue what real risk I present (never binned but alas).

[Stirts]

The rest is going to have to be spent on the ridicu-louse ACC levies / license fee and shitty insurance companies who do not have a clue what real risk I present (never binned but alas).

Be all worth it because you will have a sexyarse bike!

[davebullet]

Off topic: What's the 675 motor got to do with the speed triple? They are talking about the 1050 motor.

Back on topic: Dave - buy the speed triple.

P.s. Saw you (Cloggy pointed you out) checking out my street triple at the rimatuka lookout on saturday (the black street with the scratch on the aftermarket exhaust) - could tell then that you were thinking of buying a triumph.

I shouldn't have been such as shy bastard and come over and said hello. I recognised Cloggy and yourself and Mr Hyosung 250 (can't remember his signon).

I don't get out for as many rides as I'd like too, kids and responsibilities...

Speedy should help me shrug those. After all, hooligans bikes have no time for responsibility!

[davebullet]

I thought all that faffing about had disappeared 10 years ago? Don't you just ride them, get the first service done, and keep riding them? Buy a Honda; run it in any way you like. The more I hear about the 675 motor, the more it sounds like a badly designed/buiilt piece of crap from the 80s... but having said that, does it really matter? Do you plan to own it forever? Just rape it, sell it, get another one

Anything specific about 675 motors that's bad?

I know the 1050 is the old 955 unit with a lengthened stroke and FI . Much the same as the SV650 motor predates the current model (and is still used across Suzuki's range).

Personally - I like "old" motors. If it ain't broken, don't fix it. At 130 crank hp and 100Nm of torque, that's heaps for me. That means comfortable engine pulling power with a load on the back (touring / going away) or occasional 2 up riding.... or even in strong headwind (where the SV needs a cog or 2 down).

I think the don't baby it run in procedure applies to any new engine.

[davebullet]

Be all worth it because you will have a sexyarse bike!

True. It will be a keeper for a few years. the SV was my bigger bike fill in / learner.

The only problem with the Speedy is wider bars making the commuting split interesting. Speedy might eat a few wing mirrors for breakfast!

[sinned]

Anything specific about 675 motors that's bad?

I know the 1050 is the old 955 unit with a lengthened stroke and FI .

I think the don't baby it run in procedure applies to any new engine.

I don't know where these rumors come from - could be from jealous hyobang owners or gay honda riders. If you can find any evidence of problems with what is widely reported as one of the great bike motors, let me know. Also, the speedy is a $20k not a $30 - $40k bike so its suspension, seat foam, and other components may not be right up there with the rich boys toys, but it is one hell of a good bike for its money. And the exhaust and intake noise is hard to better.

[Stirts]

The only problem with the Speedy is wider bars making the commuting split interesting. Speedy might eat a few wing mirrors for breakfast!

I have been through spaghetti junction at peak hour, and those bastards really close in on you too, but I can say that I have had no issues with that. However, the temptation to knock off a few mirrors with my boot has been high but I have always possessed enough control to keep that urge at bay.