Wheelies in the carpark

**trustme** · 20th July 2010, 13:29

I work in a field that many would consider to be extremely dangerous, there is a ever present risk of serious harm or death if people do the wrong thing at the wrong time. People regularly look at things that I & my employees do & tell me I am bloody mad, sometimes I think I am too.
Over 25 years , still have all my fingers & toes, 1 lost tiime injury for a stuffed back. Safety is paramount in situations where I have had guys walk off site by morning smoko on their first day because it is too tough.
I work in a bloody dangerous environment , I work on sites through out the country for many different companies, that is why I & my clients don't put up with dumb shit.
The only cotton wool around here is the stuff between your ears.

**Katman** · 20th July 2010, 14:36

Originally Posted by auntfanny

You guys sound like fun.

Fanny

Originally Posted by auntfanny

It must be soooo boring working in a cotton wool factory.

Fanny

Are you sure you're not related to the ice-cream seller?

**Flip** · 20th July 2010, 14:42

Originally Posted by auntfanny

It must be soooo boring working in a cotton wool factory.

Fanny

Petrochemical industry actually, and when things go wrong they often go with a big bang.

Ask Mr BP!

**Flip** · 20th July 2010, 14:47

Originally Posted by trustme

+1 , I can be heaps of fun, in the right place at the right time. People doing dumb shit for which I will be held responsible & liable is not my idea of fun. Will the wheelie kid front for the legal costs & fines that could be incurred should this go pear shaped ' Yeah right '.

As an aside , I suspect if the carpark was open to public access , road rules might apply. If the carpark had restricted access solely for employees then OSH laws would take precedence .I would not want to be the poor bugger that was the test case.

Basically the road regs apply anywhere you can drive a vehicle. The OSH laws apply when you are at work, in a work vehicle on the way to work and in the carpark owned by work. If you were in a carpark that was owned by a 3rd party but under the control of the employer you would still be at work.

**javawocky** · 20th July 2010, 14:54

Originally Posted by Flip

Basically the road regs apply anywhere you can drive a vehicle. The OSH laws apply when you are at work, in a work vehicle on the way to work and in the carpark owned by work. If you were in a carpark that was owned by a 3rd party but under the control of the employer you would still be at work.

So, I should not go over 104.9kph at Hampton Downs and should only pull Wheelies on the way home? I suppose rule 1 would apply in that case, just that the Boss won't get the OSH bill.

**The Pastor** · 20th July 2010, 14:54

Originally Posted by Rogue Rider

duhhhh, thats why I was on private property....... Definately not advocating that anyone practice on the roads. In my view, the best way to learn is on a trail bike on the beach. experiment a bit.

nah dude you can get done for doing them in a carpark, trust me.

Unless its fenced off and you can't drive into it, i.e., the public have access to it then its all fair game for the coppa!

**javawocky** · 20th July 2010, 14:56

Originally Posted by renegade master

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Unless its fenced off and you can't drive into it, i.e., the public have access to it then its all fair game for the coppa!

mmm, we have one of those electronic gates which is sometimes open and sometimes closed depending on the time of day, sure would be confusing for the layers to sort out.

**Flip** · 20th July 2010, 15:06

Originally Posted by javawocky

mmm, we have one of those electronic gates which is sometimes open and sometimes closed depending on the time of day, sure would be confusing for the layers to sort out.

If you can drive there its a road under the road code. The gate has nothing to do with it.

Back to the topic in hand. Don't do dumb shit at work. If the bosses see you doing some thing that you could be charged with dangerous driving you will be very lucky to keep your job. Good jobs are hard to come by.

**onearmedbandit** · 20th July 2010, 15:13

Out of curiosity, what applies on your own driveway?

**Flip** · 20th July 2010, 15:20

Originally Posted by onearmedbandit

Out of curiosity, what applies on your own driveway?

Road code applies here as well. The public have access.

**nodrog:Me** · 20th July 2010, 15:58

Originally Posted by Flip

Road code applies here as well. The public have access.

One would hope you are a better Boss than you are internet Lawyer. The law only applies to public carparks like at the park or the beach etc, not private car parks or your driveway.

"public' means the public in general, and not just a section of the public,

it is not enough that the place is physically open to the public - they must be shown to be actually using it."

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/wh...is-a-road.html

Fanny

**jack_hamma** · 20th July 2010, 16:12

Originally Posted by Flip

Petrochemical industry actually, and when things go wrong they often go with a big bang.

Ask Mr BP!

So cotton wool would be handy moping up oil spills then?

**Flip** · 20th July 2010, 17:46

Originally Posted by auntfanny

One would hope you are a better Boss than you are internet Lawyer. The law only applies to public carparks like at the park or the beach etc, not private car parks or your driveway.

"public' means the public in general, and not just a section of the public,

it is not enough that the place is physically open to the public - they must be shown to be actually using it."

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/wh...is-a-road.html

Fanny

Well there you go, I learnt something today, thanks.

You can't get charged pulling a wheelie at work only sacked.