Won't be riding for a while. Arse...

**Banditbandit** · 16th July 2010, 08:17

Originally Posted by Katman

So it's yet another totally avoidable accident that will do nothing other than make our ACC stats look worse.

Arsehole !!!! Do you seriously think that some of us fall off for the fun of it ... yeah, it was probably avoidable ... but no one intends to fall off. How many times have you dumped it in what was "an avoidable crash" ???

All crashes when it's not the bike falling apart under you can be seen as "avoidable " ... and even they are "avoidable" as you can blame the rider for the state of the bike ..

**Katman** · 16th July 2010, 08:18

90% of motorcycle accidents can be attributed to one of two things - bravado or incompetence (or a mixture of both).

Until we're prepared to take a good hard look at ourselves and realise this fact we will continue to have needless accidents that will cost us all dearly.

**Banditbandit** · 16th July 2010, 08:20

Originally Posted by Katman

I know exactly what I'm saying.

Someone gave it a handful when they didn't need to and had an accident that was totally avoidable.

Where have I got it wrong?

That's a bit of a leap .. yeah, maybe steel001 opened the throttle a bit too hard ... on a slippery surface that's easy to do ... and maybe the rear wheel was on white paint and he didn't notice .. we've all done that ...

Charactersizing it as "giving it a handful when he didn't need to" is OTT ...

**Banditbandit** · 16th July 2010, 08:30

Originally Posted by Katman

90% of motorcycle accidents can be attributed to one of two things - bravado or incompetence (or a mixture of both).

Until we're prepared to take a good hard look at ourselves and realise this fact we will continue to have needless accidents that will cost us all dearly.

Yeah yeah yeah ... I ride partly because of the risk Dickhead ... if it was as nice and safe and suburbanly boring and as socally acceptable as driving a car I wouldn't do it ...

There's nothing like the adrenalin when you scrap your toes in a corner at 205 klicks ..

I like to keep my levels of social unacceptability pretty high ... I take the risk with my life ... but I don't take risks when I have a pillion, and I don't take risks with other people on the road .. and I have walked away from about eight offs .. twice hitting cars who did stupid things in front of me ... twice hitting pea metal on patches on the road (unmarked road works) on blind corners ... and the rest, solo offs involving no-one else ...

Next thing you'll want to ban bunjy jumping, sky diving and other risky activites ... I'd hate to have your life ... you wrap yourself in cotton wool ... how boring ..

**DEATH_INC.** · 16th July 2010, 09:57

Bugger about the foot.
Now, just for the Katman side of things (and maybe help some one else.)
Where was the line? (Side marker or across the road etc)
And were they motorbike boots? ( or something else)
Cheers.

**Gone Burger** · 16th July 2010, 10:32

Hey Steel001 -

Sorry to hear about your accident - and I repeat ACCIDENT.

We don't do these things intentionally, why the hell would we? As mentioned earlier, we are human, and make a few mistakes a long the way. The joys of motorcycling is if we do make a mistake, we are so liable to getting injured. Sounds like you will definitely need to be taking it easy for a wee while - hope your foot heals up well and as soon as possible.

What concerns me is was there no one around to help you? To have to jump in a taxi and head off to A&E would be pretty rough if there were passers by and on lookers not offering their help?

Hope you get back on your bike soon enough and make a full recovery.

Gees some people can be harsh on here.

**Katman** · 16th July 2010, 10:50

Originally Posted by Katiepie

Gees some people can be harsh on here.

Unfortunately there's far too many motorcyclists that feed off the sympathy handed out to them by the bleeding hearts simply because it makes it easier for them to believe it was ok to have the accident.

The sooner we adopt the attitude that it's not ok to have accidents the sooner we'll see people making more of a conscious effort to avoid having accidents.

**Eyegasm** · 16th July 2010, 10:51

To the OP, Ouch. I only wear leather boots and this makes me want to go and spend some dosh.

Hope you get back on the road soon.

Also, Good to see Katman still hasn't removed his self rightous foot out of his self rightous mouth.
Makes for enjoyable reading.

Please keep it up Katman

**Mrs Shrek** · 16th July 2010, 10:52

Hope you have a speedy recovery and that it doesn't put you off getting back on when the time is right.

note to self.... don't let katman know i dropped the bike when i stallled it going slow around the cones.... may have to pay even more for acc then i will get the blame too

**mashman** · 16th July 2010, 11:18

heal quick mate... haven't really had a motorbike ACCIDENT, let alone one that's required hospital treatment... heal up... I DETEST those white lines, they should be fuckin band as a health and safety hazard...

Ignore Katman, he doesn't accept that any accident is an accident... as mentioned it doesn't have to rain for those STUPID lines to get wet... oil, diesel, petrol, frost, burgers, paper, cardboard etc... doesn't matter what it is, once you hit it, you're gonna be lucky to stay on...

**miloking** · 16th July 2010, 11:28

Originally Posted by Katman

Unfortunately there's far too many motorcyclists that feed off the sympathy handed out to them by the bleeding hearts simply because it makes it easier for them to believe it was ok to have the accident.

The sooner we adopt the attitude that it's not ok to have accidents the sooner we'll see people making more of a conscious effort to avoid having accidents.

Two things:
1) we all pay enough rego fees already so we have right to crash every now and then..because shit happens out of your control!
(i have so far paid more than two decades of rego on several cages and bikes(its on hold just recently) and never had accident so thats quite a bit of unused money gone to ACC right there...and OP can have all of it for his surgery for all i care.
2) OP didnt even call ambulance to which he had every right to..and went to A&E for which he likely had to pay himself... so the only money was spent putting wires into his toes...and thats why we have the fucking ACC.

**insane1** · 16th July 2010, 12:05

katman why dont you crawl in your little hole and fuck off people have accidents shit happens ,as long as you learn from your mistakes all good.

**AxN** · 16th July 2010, 13:38

Sorry to hear OP's accident. Hope your foot would recover without too much lasting effects.

We are all free to express our own opinion, but some do so with empathy but some less so.

I can understand your view, Katman. However there's risk of injury/accident involves with everything we do every day. Along your way of thinking, we should all stop simple thing like vacuuming and shifting furniture in fear of having an injury would put our ACC levy up. You are letting the cost of levy become inhibiting to your life(style).

**wysper** · 16th July 2010, 14:21

Originally Posted by Katman

Do you really think this accident fits into the 'learner makes an honest mistake' category?

Originally Posted by Katman

The sooner we adopt the attitude that it's not ok to have accidents the sooner we'll see people making more of a conscious effort to avoid having accidents.

Time to figure out the ignore button. You are as bad as a bloody vuvuzela.

Wouldn't be so bad if you were constructive.

In approaching your crusade the way you do, you will be annoying far more people than you are influencing to change. In fact you are probably achieving quite the opposite.