Rego Rises Again

[Lee Rusty]

$345 a year to register a m/c is a bloody disgrace
$270+ is the new ACC levy

So you guys who are on here telling others about your crashes
would be well advised to keep to keep your tales of woe to yourselves. All your crashes do is cost the rest of us money.

[130wide]

When does this come in to effect?

[Andrew]

I bought my bike as a cheap option for transportation, initally being a student.

I paid $2800 for my bike and that was hard enough on a student salary.

I see that my chain, sprockets, front tyre, and front brake pads need replacing, so i replace them $430.

My bike fails its warrent because of leaky seals, so I get them replaced $210, only to discover 2 months later they start to leak. I'm told i need get them rechromed and resealed and thats a cost of $500.

I'm getting my bike in for a full service this week and find out it needs cam chain replacing, aswell as plugs and schims replacing.
Another $500.

The front discs on my bike are just under the min thickness and if I get stung on the warrent for them its another $1200 to get after market front discs.

Then I pay $350 / year for insurance and thats with nc bonus.
Then I'm told registration has gone up to $345 a year.

So if i get stung on my warrent I could have paid $6335 for a 13 year old 250 thats a piece of crap.

Yet I've never had a crash or ever been ticketed, man do I feel like I'm getting the raw end of the deal.

[SPman]

Originally posted by Lee Rusty
$345 a year to register a m/c is a bloody disgrace 

I could think of stronger epithets! 

[Lee Rusty]

effective now

[Lee Rusty]

there are cheaper alternatives if you need to replace your discs,
1200 seems over the top .
There is a guy in OZ who advertises in M/c Marketplace and Data Mag (see there website) he makes rotors (the disc part) and puts them on your carriers (the middle bit) musch cheaper than 1200.

No one can really believe bikes are a cheaper alternative transport. That may have been back in the 50's and 60's but not for many years now.

Just tyres and insurance will put paid to that myth.

[SPman]

Mt Eden M/cycles carries aftermarket disc assemblies for most models - I think $7-800 a pr.

[wkid_one]

Mine was probably fecken expensive for ACC - ambulance, 15 X-Rays, 2 Cat Scans, 8 hrs hospital time, a plethora of Physio visits - shit, I am glad my registrations went to good use - as for contributing to the increase. 

I think your comment is completely naive and marginally arrogant.  They are looking at the increase in accidents in general - this is driven by an increase in the NUMBER of motorcyclists on the road - which has in turn increased the base line number of accidents.  Pull your head in a realise bikes will have accidents.  Motorcycle registrations have increased year on year - as have bike accidents in numbers BUT NOT AS A PROPORTION OF REGISTERED MOTORBIKES ON THE ROAD - infact this stat has decreased with the focus on speeding and roading in NZ.  However, given the increase in biking numbers, it is now a feasible source of revenue collection for the government.  It is also a focus of the NZ Government to tax the groups responsible for the costs, which has driven the segregation of Rego costs being groups.

If you want to complain - drive a truck carrying 44 tonne up and down the country - THEN YOU WILL SEE REVENUE COLLECTION TO THE NTH DEGREE - if you think we are targetted and hard done by, you are sadly mistaken.  Try insuring an R1 in the UK if you want to see cost.

However, Lee based on your post, I would like to raise some questions:

• By not posting about the accidents - how does this prevent the premiums increasing?  Out of sight out of mind?
• Ummm - am I too understand from the tone of your post you have NEVER crashed, and therefore contributed to the ACC statistics?
• Statistically bikes do have a higher proportion of ACC related injuries - why SHOULDN'T we pay more?  Any accident on a bike, no matter how small - can result in the need for ACC - yet many car accidents don't.  DO you want Car drivers to subsidise your habit? 
• Errr - no one WANTS to have any accidents - if posting about it helps someone else realise the dangers and ride safer - good on them for posting about it

 

[Motu]

You're getting to be a right pain w'kid - go and play with ya new toy eh.

How many ACC claims have you had in your short riding career? I don't know how many Lee has had,but in my 33 years on bikes I have had no claims,no trips to hospital,this may change tomorrow,but for now I've been subsidising the likes of you.Don't call me slow either!

[Lee Rusty]

Buy your statement

Mine was probably fecken expensive for ACC - ambulance, 15 X-Rays, 2 Cat Scans, 8 hrs hospital time, a plethora of Physio visits - shit, I am glad my registrations went to good use

you should be more than happy to pay for all your own expenses, out of YOUR regos - not mine and everyone elses.

I object to ACC increases because road users subsidise OFF ROAD riders who get charged nothing but still crash get injuries and ACC
the same goes for rugby players, tennis players, judo players, horse riders etc.

[Lee Rusty]

In answer to your questions

By not posting about the accidents - how does this prevent the premiums increasing? Out of sight out of mind?

No it does not - buit I have read here of people who have crashed their bike and say it gives them street cred.
That is Crap. A rider who crashes is juat that a rider who crashes.
Not a hero.

Ummm - am I too understand from the tone of your post you have NEVER crashed, and therefore contributed to the ACC statistics?

I have been riding for over 35 years and had a couple of "offs" but have never been involved with another vehicle.
I had an ACC claim in the old days for a new helmet - $200.00
I have had I claim for ACC from an incident as a pedestrian.

Statistically bikes do have a higher proportion of ACC related injuries - why SHOULDN'T we pay more? Any accident on a bike, no matter how small - can result in the need for ACC - yet many car accidents don't. DO you want Car drivers to subsidise your habit?

You obviously want us to subsidise yours.

Errr - no one WANTS to have any accidents - if posting about it helps someone else realise the dangers and ride safer - good on them for posting about it

WHo says that reading about crashes will make people ride safer.
that would be wishful thinking,
There is a difference between that and trying to compete with I had a bigger crash that you - i got more tickets than you etc.

I also have a hatred of dickheads who I see do wheelstands at traffic lights, on the motorway etc, everytime I see some clown do that I imagine my insurance man is in the car behind or opposite.

[Lee Rusty]

Also remember what you a said next year and the year after that

the ACC has an agenda to get ACC levy for bikers up to approx $700 a year.

THe outcry at that was to great so they are going to do it in bits - next year it will break $400 -

oh and that is beside the petrol tax ACC levy which is supposed to be the fairer way to go.

How about - we get some credits for less pollution, less road damage, less traffic congestion. etc.

[Coldkiwi]

two ends of the spectrum are raised here. Yes, when bikers crash we probably cost more money to fix up than a cage crash and its only fair that we should contribute to that. But if its going to be fair to the car drivers by not forking out for our increased risk, we shouldnt' fork out for the risk of little jane playing netball on saturday when she gets her fingers broken or my flatmates injuries incurred doing judo.

Would it really take too much effort to collate the costs of the motorcycle accidents to ACC last year, divide it by the number of licenced riders (and include the offroad types.. "no ACC payouts for your injuries my boy until you've registered")... the sum of which is then published and all paid next time we get our rego? Sure there are a few tweaks that would be needed but its gotta be a fairer way fo doing it than this present crap. (and if it did work out to $700 each then why shouldn't we pay that?? I just worry that right now, some accountant needs to settle his bottom line more than he cares about being fair)

[SPman]

Hmmm...... 36 yrs riding - 7 offs - no claims on ACC

40 yrs driving, 6 dings including a writeoff - no claims to ACC.......

Feel as though Im subsidising a lot of people out there - although it could all change tomorrow!

[XRNR]

Wickid,
Their is no increase in the number of bikes on the road now! There is a definite decrease since when I started riding, Bikes were more affordable than cars then, now its the other way around.

Andrew,
Have no illusions about big road bikes being a cheap form of transport. (and pretty much bikes in general). They are mostly high performance machines and should be maintained as such. By the time you put good tyres on, and wear all the good protective gear (if you value yourself (and are not an accountant)). About the only money you will save will be at the pump and the carpark.
Unless you get a cool bike like Motu's.