Price of trail rides?

[browny]

hey guys and gals. curious to know how much you trail riders are payin,(outside of canterbury).grenville button,aka suzuki trails has decided to up the price to fifty dollars,which i think stinks.it was forty and dear enough at that .to travel to a ride is in the area of two hundy with fuel and all costs counted.im sure he's got costs but when he takes half of about 15k its hard to be sympathetic to his cause,especially when hes putting our hobby out of reach.most of my mates have boycotted him but theres noone else and he knows it.interested in your comments

[little.whittle]

$25 to $30 is the going rate for the Mr Motorcycles and Power rides

[browny]

$25 to $30 is the going rate for the Mr Motorcycles and Power rides

which is about where it should be i think

[tommorth]

25-30 no way I would pay 50 bucks wouldn't pay 40 for a trail ride ether

The two man up at the farm this weekend is a bloody good deal 60bucks ride all day saturday pitch your tent and race sunday ... Wish i'd known about it a week ago .

[Ktmboy]

$25 to $30 is the going rate for the Mr Motorcycles and Power rides

Ehh. You show me a Power ride for $25 and I'll not only eat my undies but yours as well.

In response the first post, peeps shouldn't really be speculating on how much $$ a promotors take is.

MR Motorcycles for example are charity rides and farm owners donate their land for next to nix. Others have to pay land owners.

So out of his 15k he has to pay for Toilets, St John, land owners, advertising,
Insurances (this is getting huge), staff, the list goes on.

Not only that but for us it takes about 10 working days for 2-3 guys to make a track (probably not that hard in the Mainland or on farmland) and then another two days to re instate it. This includes a full two days on a tractor grading roads and farm tracks to return the venue to a better than started condition. So someone has to get paid along the way.

Clubs are different as they have lots of volunteers but everyone has their limit as to how many hours they can contribute.
$50 does sound up there though.

[Jay GTI]

$45 for the Epic Events stuff, or $80 for both days on 2 day rides, which I think is fair for the amount of effort that goes into setting up the trails and managing the events on the day. Plus I used to go to school with Nick Reader about a million years ago, so I'm happy to put coin in his pocket.

If it's a smaller event (Power, Mr Motorcycles, Waitemata etc) I think $30 is fair. Certainly for $50 I'd be expecting someone to clean my bike for me afterwards...

[Ktmboy]

25-30 no way I would pay 50 bucks wouldn't pay 40 for a trail ride ether

The two man up at the farm this weekend is a bloody good deal 60bucks ride all day saturday pitch your tent and race sunday ... Wish i'd known about it a week ago .

Yes, but thats the farm though.
They own the venue and it doesn't cost them to put the event on. Add $20 per rider for the venue fee and the it starts add $$. Remember also that alot of these rides have no insurances and they will get caught out one day when there is a fatality and the Dept of Labour come snooping.

[browny]

Ehh. You show me a Power ride for $25 and I'll not only eat my undies but yours as well.

In response the first post, peeps shouldn't really be speculating on how much $$ a promotors take is.

MR Motorcycles for example are charity rides and farm owners donate their land for next to nix. Others have to pay land owners.

So out of his 15k he has to pay for Toilets, St John, land owners, advertising,
Insurances (this is getting huge), staff, the list goes on.

Not only that but for us it takes about 10 working days for 2-3 guys to make a track (probably not that hard in the Mainland or on farmland) and then another two days to re instate it. This includes a full two days on a tractor grading roads and farm tracks to return the venue to a better than started condition. So someone has to get paid along the way.

Clubs are different as they have lots of volunteers but everyone has their limit as to how many hours they can contribute.
$50 does sound up there though.

interesting to hear from somone on the inside of the set up process.how much and why the insurances,we sign our lives away at the gate and public liabilty is jack all as i understand it.as faras speculating how he making,why not hes being greedy.im aware that most if not all are fund raisers and im more than happy to contibute,but he takes half of the earnings which i also have a problem with.if its to be 50 bucks so be it, more to the charity but not in to his pocket

[barty5]

Yes, but thats the farm though.
They own the venue and it doesn't cost them to put the event on. Add $20 per rider for the venue fee and the it starts add $$. Remember also that alot of these rides have no insurances and they will get caught out one day when there is a fatality and the Dept of Labour come snooping.

The $60 also covers your accommodation for the saturday night as well so given that it $20 a day to ride there makes it only $20 for the race added in to it not bad $$ really

[Ktmboy]

interesting to hear from somone on the inside of the set up process.how much and why the insurances,we sign our lives away at the gate and public liabilty is jack all as i understand it.

Yes it is jack shit. But we have to have it. It really only covers legal costs and not the $$ you will sue us for as we are deemed to have provided an unsafe environment. The fact that you are actually controlling the throttle and in charge of your own destiny could be over looked.

Accidents do happen and most are avoidable. There was one on the news tonight regarding the bridge jump fatality. He got 400 hours community service and 10k fine.

That is tiny compared to what the Labour Dept will fine him for. It will reach 6 figures.
If he didn't have insurance for representation it would be a very large 6 figures.

[Ktmboy]

The $60 also covers your accommodation for the saturday night as well so given that it $20 a day to ride there makes it only $20 for the race added in to it not bad $$ really

Its the farm...life is simple up there. No motorway traffic, just the lasy moo of cows every morning. It doesn't cost Mike a cent for you to camp over. try that in Clevedon or Coatsville.
Its horses for courses.

[barty5]

Its the farm...life is simple up there. No motorway traffic, just the lasy moo of cows every morning. It doesn't cost Mike a cent for you to camp over. try that in Clevedon or Coatsville.
Its horses for courses.

No it dosnt but it is a business they running. No point in being in business if you dont charge for it bit like thunder park dont cost them much to run that park either given the state of the track half the time but they still charge. Not that i have ever complained about the cost of any ride i have been on.

[flyingcr250]

at the end of the day if its a place i like to ride at , then ill pay the money. if the epic events or the off limits rides were $50-$60 a day id still go, simply because they are very well run, and offer something different to most other trailrides, we still have it pretty good in this country in terms of places to ride and the prices they charge, my mate was living in the U.K and he reckons the average trailride costs 100 pounds,

[Ktmboy]

No it dosnt but it is a business they running. No point in being in business if you dont charge for it bit like thunder park dont cost them much to run that park either given the state of the track half the time but they still charge. Not that i have ever complained about the cost of any ride i have been on.

Jeez barty your missing the point Mikes 20 bucks is all profit. He does have to pay $15 per rider to the land owner or $500 for toilets or Insurances or any of the other outlays.

Lucky him.

[Jay GTI]

my mate was living in the U.K and he reckons the average trailride costs 100 pounds,

That's if you can even find a decent one. I was there last year and there was one trail riding place I could get to without driving for hours and it was only open once every couple of months. Plenty of mx tracks, but I'm not into mx. We are utterly spoilt for trail riding in this country and it's this that was 80% of reason why I came back.