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    The Honda V4 family has only one real fault - they were built by Honda.
    I've done most of them from NC30 to RC30 and one thing in common is the lack of finish on the cranks. If they'd only radiused the oil holes where they break out onto the bearing surface there would have been a lot less problems. They appear to have relied on the linishing belt dipping into the oil hole to remove any burrs - didn't work very often. Even RC30's are like this.
    With the cranks hand finished and bearing clearances set properly the bottom ends are pretty well bulletproof. The gear drive cam versions only seem to give problems with the "C" spring gear preload setup if abused or at high mileage. The chaindrive cam ones of course suffer from the Honda inability at the time to design a tensioner which would work. This can be overcome.
    If you really want one most of the faults are well known and there are solutions available.
    Personally, I could live with an RC30 quite happily - and I don't say that about Hondas very often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T.W.R View Post
    for a few of your questionings on listed bikes

    who's Cambell & Smith you ask
    All thiese bikes and riders are well before my time so Thank you for the inlightenment, much appreciated, re: the RC30 surley it was not the only race bike to expire in its time, I would expect it still happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chiefofthehill View Post
    All thiese bikes and riders are well before my time so Thank you for the inlightenment, much appreciated, re: the RC30 surley it was not the only race bike to expire in its time, I would expect it still happens.
    I suspected that

    Those two were highlighted because of their status at the time and the demise of their bike during what was a major race. though they weren't the only ones to have it happen there were quite a few privateer racers who fell to the same issue. The bike itself was a magic piece of machinery but just failed under race conditions....awesome on the road but just like the VF1000R exculsively priced compared to it's competition and not that much better in real world conditions. Just the same as Yamaha's OW01 (have a search & see what price they were when released )

    Seeing RC30s , VF1000Rs, OW01s etc when they were brand new was better than porn, amazing pieces the RC30 & OW01 were real craftsmanship

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    The Honda V4 family has only one real fault - they were built by Honda.
    Ohh I wouldnt say that, Honda had no more issues than any other Jap company, and way less than any euro/yank over the years...
    So what of all the other v4's Kawa, Yamy, suzuki? they all did em but ya dont here anything of it, could be cos they were only another engine.

    Quote Originally Posted by chiefofthehill View Post
    the RC30 surley it was not the only race bike to expire in its time, I would expect it still happens.
    tell me bout it, in the last few years Ive blowen up Yamaha, Suzuki and yes 2 honda's.

    Quote Originally Posted by T.W.R View Post
    Seeing RC30s , VF1000Rs, OW01s etc when they were brand new was better than porn, amazing pieces the RC30 & OW01 were real craftsmanship
    hell yes remembering it was near 30yrs ago, to easy to forget that and compair em to more current years.


    sitting here twidling my thumbs on this yet again shit arse winters day... from a site I often refer to, http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/mod...da_vf1000r.htm
    cheers DD
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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase View Post
    anyone know this?
    Another one came up on line over night, started under a grand

    http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=312373023

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    on another similer note I followed one of these yesterday over gebbies...
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    cheers DD
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    Quote Originally Posted by dangerous View Post
    sitting here twidling my thumbs on this yet again shit arse winters day... from a site I often refer to, http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/mod...da_vf1000r.htm
    generalised reference purposes one hopes check the difference in dry & wet weight specs

    Quote Originally Posted by dangerous View Post
    on another similer note I followed one of these yesterday over gebbies...
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    That's an RC, you want an RB model

    http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...x?id=284749576

    These two are touted as RB models but the road going one has pillion peg mounts

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    Back in the old days, I remember the CB1100Rs being raced without their fairings most of the time. Is that because they never worked that well or too heavy?


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    Quote Originally Posted by nudemetalz View Post
    Back in the old days, I remember the CB1100Rs being raced without their fairings most of the time. Is that because they never worked that well or too heavy?
    The RC went to the full fairing because the half fairing of the RB tended to lighten the front wheel at top speed.

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    Actually now you mention that I do remember reading that once.

    Cheers KM


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    Here's a good piece of history

    http://www.google.co.nz/url?q=http:/...7a0wW_snw8pS_g

    check the Helmet cam on Ron Haslem 3rd piccy top row

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    Quote Originally Posted by T.W.R View Post
    Seeing RC30s , VF1000Rs, OW01s etc when they were brand new was better than porn, amazing pieces the RC30 & OW01 were real craftsmanship
    Don't think you can put a VFR1000 in with the RC30 or OW01 mate. I certainly wouldn't. Two are hand built race bikes...one is a fat heap of shit with some HRC stickers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T.W.R View Post
    Here's a good piece of history

    http://www.google.co.nz/url?q=http:/...7a0wW_snw8pS_g

    check the Helmet cam on Ron Haslem 3rd piccy top row
    TRULY AWESOME Link, Bill !!!!

    Brings back memories as a kid.


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    What few CB1100R's got raced generally had the fairings removed when the replacement price was known - and not a lot of aftermarket replacements available then either.
    I know of one RC30 which got carefully parked up & covered when the price list arrived - a tank was over $2700....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    Don't think you can put a VFR1000 in with the RC30 or OW01 mate. I certainly wouldn't. Two are hand built race bikes...one is a fat heap of shit with some HRC stickers.
    Wasn't making that sort of comparison Pete but at their own points in time they were at the pinnicle of their intended purposes especially with their attention to detail
    And lol the OW01 was an stupidly over priced item that didn't do anything better than it's competition especially when Yamaha had a rethink of their strategy dropped it and within a couple of years produced a relatively identical bike for a fraction of the price.
    Even though I was close as a fly's testicle to buying a VF1000R it wasn't for their supposed brilliance as a sportsbike it was the engineering involved, yep they're ponderous tanks at low speed and top heavy as buggery but as a design statement they were way ahead of their rivals by a long chalk
    Only thing close at the same point was the GSX-R1100G and apart from being a total rethink in weight & power stakes what did they do? snap wheels & headstocks, the GPZ1000RX had a blistering top end but handled worst than the VF1000R at low speed & Yamaha Trundled along with the FJ1100 with torque for africa to get it by & a Bimota inspired frame

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    Quote Originally Posted by T.W.R View Post
    ......
    And lol the OW01 was an stupidly over priced item that didn't do anything better than it's competition especially when Yamaha had a rethink of their strategy dropped it and within a couple of years produced a relatively identical bike for a fraction of the price.
    ....
    YZF750R per chance?


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