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    Quote Originally Posted by pzkpfw View Post
    If I rode my bike in such a way that I never ever broke any law at all - I don't think I'd bother owning it in the first place.

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    I just ride at the speed limit over the nuns........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mom View Post
    Double yellow line painting man has made his way through out NZ. The placement of the double yellows used to be for safety these days the are used for?

    Once upon a time when you saw double yellow lines you did not even think about overtaking for fear of your life, a fine came way down your thought processes.

    The law says you can not overtake on double yellows, therefore you dont. There is a penalty to be paid if you do, and these days it is not just your life to be concerned about. Your bank balance is almost more at peril.

    Certainly there are some areas that you should never overtake. I dont care how fast your bike is, or how skilled you are, or how available the gap seems to be to your "zoned in" eyes, you are tempting your maker and most likely pissing off George and Murtle out for their little drive, if you do overtake.

    I think it is sad that we have reached the "its back to using your own judgement, just like it was before they painted an yellow lines" time, for it wont be long until we get hammered with even more draconian measures.

    Can anyone see a business opportunity here? I am about to start up sewing red flags and recruiting people to walk in front of you when you attempt to negotaite our highways and byways. The charge for this will be payable by the following methods...
    The red flag sounds great. Remember when cars first came out and you need a perosn to walk in front with a lantern once dark, to warn other people of a vehicle approaching. The point of the car is??? 3-5kmh walking pace. DUH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by riffer View Post
    If you can pass the vehicle ahead of you while staying in the same lane as them, then you may do so.


    I have used this technique for years. If it's safe to do so, you'd be amazed at the amount of cars that let you pass.
    Hats off, to those thinking drivers. They are a ray of sunshine on a road like the Gorge.
    But in reality, how many of them are out there? Most are either oblivious to those behind, or simply don't care. Also, most will rate the chances of overtaking based on their own ability/car's performance..."I c/w-ouldn't here - so no-one can. I don't need to make room."
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by riffer View Post
    I think a lot of you people are thinking this the wrong way.

    The law does not say "you may not overtake on a yellow".
    It simply says "you may not cross the centreline". The road code for motorcyclists quite specifically states that even where there are double lines, you may still pass, provided you DO NOT CROSS THE CENTRELINE.

    So the obvious lesson here is:

    If you can pass the vehicle ahead of you while staying in the same lane as them, then you may do so.

    If you can't pass the vehicle ahead of you while staying in the same lane as them, then you may not.

    I have used this technique for years. If it's safe to do so, you'd be amazed at the amount of cars that let you pass.
    Yeah but, when they don't move over they get highly pissed at losing wing mirrors
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    I wonder how the driver phoned the cops.

    Passenger did it?
    Hands-free kit?
    Pulled over somewhere?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    Hats off, to those thinking drivers. They are a ray of sunshine on a road like the Gorge.
    But in reality, how many of them are out there? Most are either oblivious to those behind, or simply don't care. Also, most will rate the chances of overtaking based on their own ability/car's performance..."I c/w-ouldn't here - so no-one can. I don't need to make room."
    Had a 4X4 a couple of weeks ago move over in the gorge as I approached. Big thumbs up to him, but it is a rarity. Gave me another whole 90 seconds of entertainment before hitting the inevitable wall of traffic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    Hats off, to those thinking drivers. They are a ray of sunshine on a road like the Gorge.
    But in reality, how many of them are out there? Most are either oblivious to those behind, or simply don't care. Also, most will rate the chances of overtaking based on their own ability/car's performance..."I c/w-ouldn't here - so no-one can. I don't need to make room."
    Yep idiots in smallcars at 50km,braking every corner lol.

    Last week probably had the same dude in 4x4 as Owl,he pulled over to let me passed,I sit behind through gorge,can't be bothered passing unless they pull over.
    Hello officer put it on my tab

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    Quote Originally Posted by riffer View Post
    I think a lot of you people are thinking this the wrong way.

    The law does not say "you may not overtake on a yellow".
    It simply says "you may not cross the centreline". The road code for motorcyclists quite specifically states that even where there are double lines, you may still pass, provided you DO NOT CROSS THE CENTRELINE.
    True!

    Perhaps we (motorcyclists) should be running a campaign of appreciation to motorists that it's OK not to hug the centre line and that it is appreciated when they move over to the left and allow us to pass in safety between them and the yellow line!

    Of course it would help if we included a check on our own behaviour on how we care about other motorists rights and welfare around us!

    Most other vehicle drivers tend to think that they are travelling at the maximum safe speed or are within the law and that for you to pass "them" means that you are at least riding recklessly!

    Their perception is of course their reality and nothing will change that and they will take your overtaking them (safe or not) very personally!

    Driver "righteous Indignation" is the reason why you were reported on *555 and naivety is why you "volunteered" for a ticket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pzkpfw View Post
    I wonder how the driver phoned the cops.

    Passenger did it?
    Hands-free kit?
    Pulled over somewhere?
    You can use *555 if you are driving... Asked a cop once about it and he said it was all good, theres a bit on it in the forums here somewhere...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kornholio View Post
    You can use *555 if you are driving... Asked a cop once about it and he said it was all good, theres a bit on it in the forums here somewhere...
    Perfect example, thanks.

    Sure, *555 while driving is "legal", but why is it "safe" when they are otherwise saying don't use your cell phone whole driving?

    Sounds like a few yellow lines I've seen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    Perhaps "next time" admit nothing ....
    Sound advice.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mom View Post
    Double yellow line painting man has made his way through out NZ. The placement of the double yellows used to be for safety these days the are used for?

    Once upon a time when you saw double yellow lines you did not even think about overtaking for fear of your life, a fine came way down your thought processes.

    The law says you can not overtake on double yellows, therefore you dont.
    Let's just clarify this. You're allowed to overtake as long as you don't cross the yellow line (singular) ON YOUR SIDE. There doesn't have to be two yellow lines - the only one that applies to you is the one on YOUR side. The one on the other side applies to people travelling in the opposite direction.

    Quote Originally Posted by beyond View Post
    Remember when cars first came out and you need a person to walk in front with a lantern once dark, to warn other people of a vehicle approaching.
    I'm sure that the implication that Mom is old enough to 'remember' that will have serious repercussions...
    If it wasn't for a concise set of rules, we might have to resort to common sense!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Preload View Post

    I'm sure that the implication that Mom is old enough to 'remember' that will have serious repercussions...
    Did you just use 'Mom' and 'old' in the same sentence?...
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    Quote Originally Posted by beyond View Post
    The red flag sounds great. Remember when cars first came out and you need a perosn to walk in front with a lantern once dark, to warn other people of a vehicle approaching. The point of the car is??? 3-5kmh walking pace. DUH.
    Then there was the intersection procedure in one American state:

    1. Stop the car
    2. Get out of the car and walk to the intersection
    3. Fire your shotgun
    4. Wait 3 minutes for a responding shot. If you hear one start the procedure all over again.

    (or something like that, I can't remember it exactly)
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    That's Gore you are talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kornholio View Post
    Did you just use 'Mom' and 'old' in the same sentence?...
    Best I put my affairs in order.
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