Two-strokes, dying breed?

[Craig#347]

Whats happening with 2 strokes these days . Great machines , honda, kawasaki, suzuki all stopped production a while ago now. When is yamaha, KTM going to be phased out does anyone know.

[honda_power]

i dont see ktm stopping any time soon

[flyingcr250]

2t's will never die out, when they introduce injected 2t's i think they will make a major resurgence,

[B0000M]

2 stroke support is alive an well on this forum.

and yes it is shit that the jap's caved to the eco bullshit that society is being spoon fed.


KTM is apparently meant to be releasing some direct injection 2 strokes some time soon, which according to what i've been told produce more power than the old 2 strokes, use less fuel than the 4 strokes, and produce less emmissions than the 4 strokes.... if this is the case, they will be the new revolution in the industry.

as for 4 strokes- my opinion of them is they are over complicated in design, have too many parts moving too fast in a less than ideal environment (mud / water / sand etc), and they are heavy (450s) or gutless and heavy (250s)

[Craig#347]

yeah the running cost of a 250f has certainly started to take the fun out of it for me

[Bradz]

Never never never, I just switched from a 4t to 2t Gas Gas, the most fun ive ever had on a dirt bike!! Surprised it took me so long to see the light

[Latte]

Yeah it'll only be those crazy enthusiasts left riding 2 strokes soon, putting up with more fun for less money, they're mad.


:P

[EXCDirt]

Never never never, I just switched from a 4t to 2t Gas Gas, the most fun ive ever had on a dirt bike!! Surprised it took me so long to see the light

I love my 2 stroke too.
I'm never going back to the 4t side.
Liked my Ktm but really like my Gas gas.

[t595]

this is why 2strokes will never die!! (make sure volume is at max)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaYXAA1TjdQ

[flyingcr250]

all this talk about 2T's makes a chap want to change his mind

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...-295912987.htm

[xen]

4t you ride faster & easier but for fun ye ride 2t

[krad_nz]

Had a ride on a mates YZ250F today at the SandPit. (2007 model I think). Had an exhaust system on it.

Anyway, its quite a different ride. Smoother and more predictable, but somehow not as much fun or engaging as my KDX.
KDX even felt more grunty somehow, but I think its just because of the way power is delivered. The way 2/'s accelerate just feels quicker and more enjoyable.

Gear selection seemed less crucial on the YZ250F, pulled from third easily enough from almost any speed while in damp sand. That was pretty impressive.

Having said all that, he well and truely schooled me. That thing rails through corners, KDX always feels like its going to wash out.

[noobi]

Well it seems only the Euros are interested in further development of the 2 stroke, I know KTM and GasGas have their eyes on the direct injected 2 stroke holy grail some time in the near future.
TM have 2 strokes with efi throttle bodies, I dont know where Husqvarna stand on the injection front but all that BMW money has to be going somewhere right?
These are the latest offerings from the 4 Euro manufacturers

[t595]

this is probably why the yanks wanted the 2stroke banned in such a hurry.
didnt think a dirty old 125 could beat these "hi tech" 4strokes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uICX65Eq94Y

[tommorth]

Hopefully the euros will keep pushing them, I know I would probably be faster on a 4 stroke but its just not as fun.

funny that when I was a kid if you wanted reliable you bought a fourstroke