wet paint..

[bugjuice]

Big Dave, is this something Kiwi Rider mag could help with?
That'd be a good start Waylander..

[XP@]

Long shot, but we are not the only road users in danger.
Could try contacting cyclists, a joint lobby would be more powerful....

[Lou Girardin]

I agree that the paint issue is important. But, I grew up riding bikes, both motor and pedal and the golden rule was to avoid painted lines (and tram tracks). I still do, I'm not going to rely on some "non-slip" paint.

[eliot-ness]

I agree that the paint issue is important. But, I grew up riding bikes, both motor and pedal and the golden rule was to avoid painted lines (and tram tracks). I still do, I'm not going to rely on some "non-slip" paint.

Just found this info on the web (under 'road marking paint') Nelson City is to introduce new road marking system to cut down on amount of paint used and make roads safer for cyclists. Apparently a new government directive. No mention of motor cyclists but if it works who cares.

[bugjuice]

didn't think there were enough cyclists to make as much noise as bikers, but the more weight to carry it, the better I guess. Shows it's not just for ourselves..

Lou, as I said earlier, I agree with the golden rule, but there's no way you can not ride on the white paint. I'd place good money on bets to see someone make an average trip and miss ALL the white paint on the road, without going out of your way in the trip or putting yourself/others at risk..

[Motu]

Sometime in the 70s my mate dropped his Tiger on some paint in the wet,he was going to write to the council and complain about them painting the roads - we wound him up so much about it he never did....wow,was he 30yrs ahead of his time?

I can't believe this thread,it goes against all my basic theories about riding bikes,I'm with Lou...even if they used non slip paint I still wouldn't ride on painted lines....basic as dog fuck,and that's all I'm saying on this thread.

[TonyB]

The point is:

1. in many other countries this is not a problem
2. there are roads that are marked in such a way that it is IMPOSSIBLE to avoid the paint- I've seen them
3. It is possible to have non slip paint for road marking
4. Apparently the LTSA's own rules call for non slip paint

I doubt wether I'd trust it either after many years of riding, but it would appear that many biker immigrants to NZ are caught out by our slippery paint.
Why put up with it when it can be fixed and it's not even supposed to be the way it is?

[Waylander]

Big Dave, is this something Kiwi Rider mag could help with?
That'd be a good start Waylander..

Yea it would. Question is though, are the willing to print it. Let me do the reaserch and get something typed up then will get it going form there.

[bugjuice]

Sometime in the 70s my mate dropped his Tiger on some paint in the wet,he was going to write to the council and complain about them painting the roads - we wound him up so much about it he never did....wow,was he 30yrs ahead of his time?

I can't believe this thread,it goes against all my basic theories about riding bikes,I'm with Lou...even if they used non slip paint I still wouldn't ride on painted lines....basic as dog fuck,and that's all I'm saying on this thread.

I understand what you and Lou are saying. I'm not gonig to start aiming for the paint if they fixed it. Still stay well away from it, but you cannot ride anywhere without crossing the paint. If you want to or not. There's no choice. period. If we can't choose to ride on the paint or not, we should have the piece of mind that we aren't going to bin it if things aren't going our way, wether you are riding right or not. The fact that they've been doing a crap job for 30 years just shows no one has done anything about it, so everyone just takes crashing as an everyday event. Fuck that. I love my bike, I don't want to have to pay for new fairings and crankcase covers everytime a bit of white paint decides I have to spend money on fixing my bike.

I've ridden a few years in the wet and try to avoid riding in it at all costs. Costs being the pun word there. I'm fukin sick of sliding and shitting myself.
So I'm going to fukin do something about it. If two people on this site are happy with the roads, then great!! Not being sarcastic or looking for a fight or whatever, but I can't see how you're happy to just put up with the status quo.
Hell, they can pick up sand off the base of the sea for next to nothing and throw it in the paint mix for all I know, as long as the paint wants to grip the tyres, then I'm happy.

Same with that shit they put in the cracks of the road. A fukin joke. And we have to ride it..

[Clockwork]

One more vote in the "yes, I'm prepared to protest about this" poll. Where do I sign up?

[Lou Girardin]

Now when this is sorted, how about non-slip diesel.

[TonyB]

Now when this is sorted, how about non-slip diesel.

And 'warming' KY jelly that doesn't end up like glue.............. I've said to much, haven't I....

[Ixion]

Sometime in the 70s my mate dropped his Tiger on some paint in the wet,he was going to write to the council and complain about them painting the roads - we wound him up so much about it he never did....wow,was he 30yrs ahead of his time?

I can't believe this thread,it goes against all my basic theories about riding bikes,I'm with Lou...even if they used non slip paint I still wouldn't ride on painted lines....basic as dog fuck,and that's all I'm saying on this thread.

Well, I've never dropped a bike on paint, but I was writing to councils in the 70's about it. Cos I've had some shit oh shit moments on it. Agreed, always ride to miss it. But there's some places you just can't no matter how weird a line you take. And the process of mssing it may be hazardous in itself. Other road users are not really expecting you to be dancing all over the road.

Also wouldn't ride on white lines no matter how "non slip", by choice.And agreed, it's just another hazard , and it's our job to avoid haxzards.

But sometimes you cant , and sometimes it will catch you out. And if the hazard can be eliminated I don't see why it shouldn't be.

If there was a defect in my bike so that the brakes randomly locked up , I could ride so as to minimise the hazard. But I'd think it a lot more sensible to fix the defect.

There's enough hazards out there that we can't do anything about. If we can eliminate one so much the better.

I'm not optimistic of the chances though, I suspect it will be received with a big "Dangerous to bikes? Who gives a f**k. So much the better, it'll discourage them from being on the roads".

[spudchucka]

Now when this is sorted, how about non-slip diesel.

Don't forget the non-slip cow shit. Surely there is an additive that could be included in the bovine diet or perhaps we could just gentically modify the grass they eat so that its by product is more"grippy".

[Lou Girardin]

Don't forget the non-slip cow shit. Surely there is an additive that could be included in the bovine diet or perhaps we could just gentically modify the grass they eat so that its by product is more"grippy".

Immodium in their feed.
It might not make it non-slip, but it will be in easier to miss, large, hard lumps.