NZTA: Revoke authorised access to personal details

[breakaway]

Just got a letter from NZTA. Apparently the implementation of this law has been pushed to April 2011. Also, perhaps reading this will shed light as to once the law comes into effect, who can and can't access your details.

[slofox]

Just got a letter from NZTA. Apparently the implementation of this law has been pushed to April 2011. Also, perhaps reading this will shed light as to once the law comes into effect, who can and can't access your details.

Yeah - I got the same letter. Makes things a little clearer...

[munster]

yup, we got our letters in the weekend too.

[boman]

Yup. Letter recieved also..

[IdunBrokdItAgin]

To dredge up an old thread.

I opted out on all my vehicles.

Just come to sell my car and the buyer is purchasing it through a finance company.

With the opt out in place their finance company (who are an NZTA authorised party) cannot do their checks on the vehicle and verify me as the owner.

So now I have had to write to the NZTA to revoke my original opt out decision.

Long and the short of it - opting out is not a good thing as it just makes it harder when you come to sell your vehicle (where the buyer is using finance).

Here is a link to the contact page of NZTA: http://www.nzta.govt.nz/transact/contact-us.html

You need to message them to revoke your opt out decision. To do this you will need to supply you name, drivers license number and plate number - then ask to revoke your original opt out decision, in the body of the message.

Hopefully this helps others before they come to sell their vehicles (which they have opted out on) and find a nasty little surprise stopping them from doing so.

[davereid]

To dredge up an old thread.

I opted out on all my vehicles.

Just come to sell my car and the buyer is purchasing it through a finance company.

With the opt out in place their finance company (who are an NZTA authorised party) cannot do their checks on the vehicle and verify me as the owner.

So now I have had to write to the NZTA to revoke my original opt out decision.

Long and the short of it - opting out is not a good thing as it just makes it harder when you come to sell your vehicle (where the buyer is using finance).

Here is a link to the contact page of NZTA: http://www.nzta.govt.nz/transact/contact-us.html

You need to message them to revoke your opt out decision. To do this you will need to supply you name, drivers license number and plate number - then ask to revoke your original opt out decision, in the body of the message.

Hopefully this helps others before they come to sell their vehicles (which they have opted out on) and find a nasty little surprise stopping them from doing so.

NZTA are not taking the opt out too seriously.

They appear to be releasing data pretty easily.

Have a look at www.nzprivacy.wordpress.com under the section NZTA opt out of Opt out.

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With the opt out in place their finance company (who are an NZTA authorised party) cannot do their checks on the vehicle and verify me as the owner.

Just what kind of 'checks' do they need to do to make sure that it really is your vehicle?

If you 'opt out', does it stop your name from showing up as registered to a particular vehcile in, for example, a carjam vehcile information report?

[Gman71]

You details will no longer show up in a VIR from motorweb, or any other company, regardless of the 'opt out' thing.
That is the change the govt made on may 1- your details are Supressed to the masses, no need to opt-out.

You can opt back in by calling the NZTA call centre in palm north. It takes about 2 mins.

Only registered vehicle dealers, finance and insurance companies, (and gas stations if you do a runner ) can now access your details. All details have been turned off for everyone else.

So all the lemmings that 'opted-out' in a panic about privacy ( not realising their detais that have been publically available forever and the govt was moving to increase the protection of the info) are now screwed if they want to sell the vehicle, trade it in to a dealer, or get finance. Those companies wil most likely insist you opt back in.

I'd you are buying a vehicle privately, also means you can't detect if there is a joint owner. So buyer beware.

Gotta be careful what you wish for eh?

[Gman71]

Oh, and what kind of checks do finance companies need to do??

Are you serious!!??


Go and get a $50k personal loan, tell them to use your Ferrari for security, just tell them that you own it, I'm sure they will believe you.

[davereid]

Oh, and what kind of checks do finance companies need to do??Are you serious!!??Go and get a $50k personal loan, tell them to use your Ferrari for security, just tell them that you own it, I'm sure they will believe you.

The registered owner is not necessarily the legal owner. NZTA made the change many years ago.

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^ +1 on that one. I rang up NZTA and asked this question.

Every vehicle has two owners.

1. Registered Owner
2. Actual Owner

The "registered owner" is who would get the fines and junk mailed to them. The actual owner is the person that owns the vehicle. I asked the guy how I could prove that I was the actual owner of the vehicle (the fact that I'm the registered owner can be prooved by the registration papers) and his response was that whenever you buy a vehicle, you should have a piece of paper signed by the seller stating that they sold it to you, the amount it sold for, the date and time along with full names and signatures of all parties involved.

[Gman71]

^ +1 on that one. I rang up NZTA and asked this question.

Every vehicle has two owners.

1. Registered Owner
2. Actual Owner
.

yup that's what they will say, just like they say a divers license isn't an ID, but by default the MVR Registered person always has been, and always will be, the default 'owner' and commercial companies will use this to establish 'ownership'.

It is just NZTA covering their arse reminding you it's not legal ownership. And they a correct.

Can YOU find the sale agreement you got from the dealer when you bought it? Or if you bought it privately did you even get one??? I thought not

[breakaway]

Yeah I can actually, I'm pretty religious about a written sale puchase agreement (my signature, vehicle rego, date, sellers' signature, admission of any serious faults if the vehicle has any) every time I purchase a vehicle. I doubt other people are this vigilant though.

[davereid]

yup that's what they will say, just like they say a divers license isn't an ID, but by default the MVR Registered person always has been, and always will be, the default 'owner' and commercial companies will use this to establish 'ownership'.

It is just NZTA covering their arse reminding you it's not legal ownership. And they a correct.

Can YOU find the sale agreement you got from the dealer when you bought it? Or if you bought it privately did you even get one??? I thought not

Of course, as long as I know your rego number, I can just go onilne and put your vehicle in my name. A week later you will get a letter in the mail to tell you.

Of course, if I know your driver licence number, you wont even get the letter, as I can change your address on the NZTA computer.

[imdying]

Of course, as long as I know your rego number, I can just go onilne and put your vehicle in my name. A week later you will get a letter in the mail to tell you.

Up to 7 years in jail for doing that, just so you know.