Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 30

Thread: Harley Ohlins shock upgrade & ride report

  1. #1
    Join Date
    4th November 2007 - 16:56
    Bike
    A few
    Location
    OSR Clubrooms
    Posts
    4,852

    Harley Ohlins shock upgrade & ride report

    Aint done a ride report for a while so thought i'd Photo document this one and write one up, as well as giving CKT a bit of a plug while i was at it !

    As some may know i've had this FXR since Xmas last year (yes i spoil myself) and pretty much done nothing to it, apart from a set of forwards and a bit of maint.

    From Bike pics


    The old Koni's that it wore were getting tired and the bike was chattering under brakes, bagging out quite a bit loaded up with gear !
    A mate of mine had purchased an old set of progressive shocks cheap off TM a while back and were sitting in his shed, so i borrowed them to try out while i decided what to do about rebuilding or replacing the Konis

    From Rides



    Well i soon found out why they were cheap lol, one of them started leaking oil straight away and they felt like shit !
    Get into a sweeper at anything over the speed limit and it felt like it wanted to buck me off !
    To the point i was thinking the clevebloks might be rooted as well so started investigating upgrade for the swingarm. Turns out you can get an upgrade kit that replaces the rubber clevebloks with Spherical bearings which gives you a far more solid ride (will look into this some more i think)

    But back to my arse and the fact it was near draggin on the ground

    From Bike pics


    I had emailed Robert Taylor of CKT in New plymouth a week or so back, inquiring as to what shocks He/Ohlins had that might fit the FXR, we exchanged a few emails re some stock that was arriving in the next week or so and talked about price etc.
    The Harley shocks that Ohlins put out are not much more expensive than the next best, (ok havn't tried the Hagons but a few mates have and do rave about em) , so i had to decide whether i'd save a couple hundy and go Hagon or run with someone i know would back up what he says, wasn't a hard choice really !

    So plans were made to go and visit Robert the next week, no he doesn't send them to you, he wants the bike at his workshop so the guys can set the shocks up for the bike.


    For someone that doesn't know what CKT are about, it means the shocks were fitted a few times while they changed shim stacks internally to optimise the way the shock works, then fitted and checked it over and over again untill they/you are happy with the way they're working

    From Rides


    Bloody cool workshop there Robert, wish my garage looked like this lol

    From Rides


    Ok so the stacks were changed a couple of times to get the optimum feel and we went with the long eyes to the full length, which are ten mm longer than the progressives that were on it, they even managed to gain another 4 mm internally !
    There was plenty to play with there as it sat quite low in the rear !

    From Rides


    A quick test ride around his yard and then i took it for a squirt for 20 min up the highway, felt very firm but thats the way i wanted it, as i do carry a bit of shit in the saddle bags and are often two up (think kitchen sink)

    From Rides


    After the bill was sorted, Robert built me another coffee and we had a yarn about the bike and the fact i'd thrown some emulators in it the days leading up to my visit, he showed me a few tricks that he thought i should know about the front end, pulling out displays to help explain it to a layman ! Bounced on the front end a few times showing me a problem i will have to rectify and that being that the rebound was all up the shit (and how to go about rectifying it)
    You cant buy that sort of service on the nett !! Add the fact that his parting comment was "anytime you feel you want to change the ride of the bike to bring it on up and he'll sort it for me" At no additional cost (within reason of course, not that that was said but hey, i aint unreasonable)


    So there i was in Taranaki for the night on the piss with Dallas and Tarns talking shit and planning the next days ride !
    The choices are endless for roads to travel up that way, but it didn't take long to decide on one that will give them new shocks and me everything a road can throw at ya !
    160 odd k of tight twisties, straights, some nice sweepers, 3 cool saddles, a gorge or two, slips, 15 k of corrogated gravel, sheep, cattle, and lets not forget the shit they leave behind !

    Forget the name of the road now lol nah how can it be forgotten !

    From Rides


    From Rides


    It is indeed a great road to test a new set of shocks, with coming across all i described above somewhere on the road

    From Rides


    The Issues with the front were sure as hell noticed this day, was a number of occasions i went into a sweeper and dropped into a depression in the road, then felt the front bounce out of it way ahead of the rear, you can see how easy set up could throw a lesser man out of controll hehe !

    From Rides


    The ride through the gravel was a plod but thats me lol, could have tried some MX action but i was enjoying the slow cruise and the view ! I will say i felt every corrogation lol but who wouldn't !

    From Rides


    From Rides


    Well that was sure as hell a fun ride and yes Robert, i tested them shocks out to the max ! Wasn't nannering it at all !
    The day before, it would have been a nightmare ride through there with the bike wollowing out of controll and quite possibly throwing me off along the way if i had tried it at that pace !

    The next bit of the ride was from Tauramanui to Turangi, good upkept roads that have a mix of big long sweepers that seemed to go on forever back onto themselves, then sweep back the other way. Fucking cool they were, the sprotbike boys would probably test out their kneedowns on these roads, Me , i was testing out my ground clearances lol !

    From Rides


    I had thought about doing National park and the Paraparas back into wanganui, but alas something had to happen and the saddlebags tore open on one side !
    Well seeing i carry so much shit and heavy shit like a tool roll and now a spare set of shocks (dont mention gumboots lol Why i brought them i'll never friggin know was thinking slippers i guess seeing the riding boots aint too comfy off the bike)
    So anyway, all of a sudden i had a shitload of wieght on one side and nothing on the other, grrrr so much for barreling through the Para's

    From Rides


    So SH1 it was, won't be all that bad i thought, nice bit of road through the dessert and stop in Ohingaiti and see if leatherworks was still there to get the bags fixed, then i'd take the vinegar hill route home through ashurst

    From Rides


    How wrong can one be ???? Friggin road works every ten bloody k with lights and lollie pop men everybloody where ! Dohhh !
    Shit happens and i got over it ! (when i got to Ohingaiti and my hands on a beer !)

    From Rides


    Nobody over at leather works so had a feed at the pub and another beer lol
    Thinking back the feed might have been a bad idea cause i just wanted to curl up and have a lie down by the time i got to vinegar hill lol (old yes)

    From Rides


    The K's between stops were starting to get shorter and shorter by this stage haha been a while since a done a thousand ks i can tell ya !
    Couldn't even be arsed taking the camera out at Ashurst, but needed a sugar fix to get me home, so bourbon and coke it was ! Then another in shannon and a quick catchup with a couple of the lads there !
    Home for a wake up shower before heading down to the clubrooms for a few with the guys !

    From Rides


    Impressions of the shocks ? Absolutely brilliant ! Rebuildable and i quite like the look !

    From Rides


    Service ? Friggin mint !!! Ya can't beat local guys telling ya to come back anytime if you want to change anything !

    The Ride ?? Goes without saying really !

    To the point where the next day i joined in for a poker run, did 5 k an hour riding the clutch for 2 or 3 k's to get out of town and sat in a group of 90 odd bikes doing 80 to a hundy ks for 15 minutes, got to the stretch coming up to my place and thought faaack i am over this ride already, pulled off and put the bike away !
    Nothing to do with the fact i had pretty much scrubbed the last of any tread left on the tyre and was almost on a slick when i saw a bit of rain coming, not at all !!!! No way !!! Ahh Uhhh !

    From Rides


    Though i did cop a bit of shit for it later that night, back at Twin Cam !
    A girlfriend once asked " Why is it you seem to prefer to race, than spend time with me ?"
    The answer was simple ! "I'll prolly get bored with racing too, once i've nailed it !"

    Bowls can wait !

  2. #2
    Join Date
    13th February 2004 - 06:46
    Bike
    Forza 155 SE Pit Bike
    Location
    Wellington
    Posts
    11,471
    http://lh4.ggpht.com/_3nZ66-Z8vBs/TO...0/DSC06011.JPG

    Bwahahahaha, look at this fucken badass. Is he auditioning for a role in Sons of Anarchy or what?
    Vote David Bain for MNZ president

  3. #3
    Join Date
    14th July 2008 - 15:04
    Bike
    2012 Triumph Rocket III Touring
    Location
    Pukekohe (not Auckland!)
    Posts
    391
    Great write up. Thanks for sharing.

    "Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy" - Benjamin Franklin

  4. #4
    Join Date
    24th April 2009 - 22:28
    Bike
    xr1200hd,99 dyna + choppers
    Location
    upper harlem
    Posts
    497
    Been running ohlins on my harleys since 2002,I think robert gets quite surprised how many ohlins he has fitted to harleys,now a friend of mine has just put an ohlins fr end,brembo monobloc calipers metal matrix disc's(1200.00 a pop) and bst carbon fibre wheels on his wideglide and gets his license back next week and he hasn't even seen the bike yet so should be a good surprise.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    28th October 2010 - 20:41
    Bike
    Its a whale
    Location
    Windwhistle
    Posts
    56
    I'd second that; good job.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    3rd November 2007 - 07:46
    Bike
    KTM 1290 SDR
    Location
    Palmerston North
    Posts
    3,962


    You didn't do the Paraparas?
    Nunquam Non Paratus

  7. #7
    Join Date
    4th November 2007 - 16:56
    Bike
    A few
    Location
    OSR Clubrooms
    Posts
    4,852
    Thought i'd carry the saga on in here as a bit of a blog !

    As posted above i have been spending a bit of $ on the ride, to get the handling of the FXR to where I want it, As most who have ridden an HD at any sort of pace would know, they can scare ya if things have gotten baggy in the suspension and swing arm areas.
    So i have been working my way around the bike, with the above visit to CKT for a set of Ohlins for the rear and playing with the front end .
    And plans are underway to replace the old rubber swingarm bushes with spherical bearings to take out any movement in this area.

    As some might know i'm a bit of a track day junkie and for some unknown reason the Mothers MC race meet has been on my mind since i last attended and raced on the speed triple.

    From PMCC round 3


    So of course i intend to race the HD in the HD races and have me some fun swapping chrome with a few i know who do these races !

    So set up is important, as is practise and as there was a Motott coming up on the weekend, i needed to get as much done last week as i could, thinking there might be a chance to get out on track and test things out !

    The front now has emulators in the forks to allow some controll over the oil flow for compression dampening and while at CKT i had quite an in depth discussion with Robert about the science of it all (bloody knowledgable and helpfull that man is).
    Now someone at some stage had put progressive springs in the forks, which were great in their day prior to being able to controll things a bit more with emulators and the like, but they do make it hard to use the emulators they way they are designed, so it could be that a new set of fork springs are needed for the future !

    From Rides


    But right now it was a priority to get the sag right and get some rebound dampening happening as it was leaping out in the front way ahead of the rear, which entailed cutting down the preload packers and trying that, (as the emulators packed things up by 14mm extra and does effect rebound) if this still doesn't get the rebound i want, a thicker oil may be the shot (and adjust the emulators to suit a heavier oil) all trial and error stuff so won't happen overnight ! Good thing Mothers day aint till feb/march.

    But first things first and after my little jaunt to CKT there was very little left of my rear tyre, so off with the wheel to get a new tyre fitted !

    And Bugger

    From Rides


    Shit happens, so went out and sourced a new spocket 48 tooth which is 2 more than i had, sweet as gearing up a tad wont hurt, (and chain, i mean why wouldn't ya)
    The HDs front sprocket is a mission, with the primary having to be removed to replace it, so was thinkin to do or not to do (quick inspection and the teeth looked ok, but bloody hard to see under there).

    From Rides


    Leave it for now i thought and we'll look at it prior to race day as there is a bit of oil seepage happening from the rear of the primary which needs seeing to anyway !

    From Rides


    So away i went on a ride last weekend with a new sprocket and chain and a bit of adjustment on my part (totally screwed that up, with a report on what happened that day here .

    http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...post1129924744

    OK So i have surely done some damage to the front sprocket after this i'm thinking, so time to bite the bullet and replace it, so off to a mates place and up on the bike platform and secured. whipped the starter motor, primary, clutch etc off the bike so we could get to the front sprocket ! And yep good call, though i hadn't damaged it with trying to make the chain go around corners, it was looking a bit stretched between teeth !


    Replaced that after some time working out how to get it off and having to turn down a large socket to allow the gear shaft to petrude through, weld a bar onto said socket and figure out it's left hand thread lol
    Spent some time getting the rear wheel set dead centre in the swing arm and then aligning the engine so everything is exact ! Easy to do with the primary off and now i know where i'm at with adjustments etc !
    New seals throughout and put her all back together, new oil in and yehaaa i'm thinkin, thursday night and i have friday left to work on the front, do the gearbox and engine oils and ride to the track on sat to test it all out !

    From Rides


    Well Friday morning came and went with heaps of shit needing doing, so had the arvo left. Chocked it up and started working on the front, pulled the packers out and turned 10/11 mm off these. back in the bike and checked sags (18/20 mm) all good i thought, leave it there and though the rebound still wasn't were i want it, the heavy oil i had may be too heavy, so will make do for the track day !

    Gear box oils, well that was easy enough when ya have the right hex tool lol

    From Rides


    Two hours left till i'm due at the club to open up and kick back with the boys for a few !
    No worries i'm thinkin, only takes half hour to change the engine oils and i'll even get to give the bike a clean wooohooo

    Pull out the drain hose and peg it back so it drains out nicely, whip the filter off and stand that up on the drain tray.
    New filter on and top up the oil res.
    Run the bike and recheck level, all good, sweet drag out the compressor and make up my special mix of crc and degreaser to coat the bike, then hose it off, brakecleen the calipers and discs, hook up the air gun and blow dry hahaha no bloody elbow grease with this fella !

    Sweet i'm thinkin i gots me an hour spare to clean up, poured the drain tray into my 20 ltr waste oil container and left that leaning against a wall to drip out, put all my tools away and had a beer !

    Grab my helmet and jacket, head out to the bike to fuck off to the club and spot the drain tray, best give that a wipe and put it away !

    FUCK !

    From Rides




    Needless to say i got hammered on friday night !


    To be continued :
    A girlfriend once asked " Why is it you seem to prefer to race, than spend time with me ?"
    The answer was simple ! "I'll prolly get bored with racing too, once i've nailed it !"

    Bowls can wait !

  8. #8
    Join Date
    4th November 2007 - 16:56
    Bike
    A few
    Location
    OSR Clubrooms
    Posts
    4,852
    Well another oil change and no more Alloy found so it was time to start from the top and work down, a lack of the correct tools has stopped me tonight but hoping it's not too deep ! A chipped skirt would be the best result i can hope for now !

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	DSC06058.jpg 
Views:	23 
Size:	857.7 KB 
ID:	225905Click image for larger version. 

Name:	DSC06057.jpg 
Views:	26 
Size:	871.6 KB 
ID:	225904
    A girlfriend once asked " Why is it you seem to prefer to race, than spend time with me ?"
    The answer was simple ! "I'll prolly get bored with racing too, once i've nailed it !"

    Bowls can wait !

  9. #9
    Join Date
    13th December 2008 - 18:22
    Bike
    Your mom
    Location
    Christchurch
    Posts
    3,901
    Harleys have suspension?!

  10. #10
    Join Date
    3rd November 2007 - 07:46
    Bike
    KTM 1290 SDR
    Location
    Palmerston North
    Posts
    3,962
    Quote Originally Posted by sinfull View Post
    Now someone at some stage had put progressive springs in the forks
    That would be Ted! They were put in prior to 2000 and apparently the best thing since sliced bread.
    Nunquam Non Paratus

  11. #11
    Join Date
    4th November 2007 - 16:56
    Bike
    A few
    Location
    OSR Clubrooms
    Posts
    4,852
    Quote Originally Posted by Owl View Post
    That would be Ted! They were put in prior to 2000 and apparently the best thing since sliced bread.
    Still are with most HD shops lol
    Had emulators mentioned to me the other day at one while buying the primary seals, when i told em i'd put them in, the comment that came back was hmmm that will be interesting !
    Not the same controll as you have with clickers of course, having to pop the tops, reach down and pull em out to adjust things, but it is at least some controll over the type of ride ya want lol

    Sittin here looking at the beast with a quivering lip Al, Friggin jinxed meself friday morn talking to a mate about how much i spent on the handling and it'll prob... touched wood (but too late)
    And i know the (Big missed gear) moment shit happened ! But still Ran like a bike possessed two up after it, just lucky it was due for an oil change or i'd never have noticed !
    A girlfriend once asked " Why is it you seem to prefer to race, than spend time with me ?"
    The answer was simple ! "I'll prolly get bored with racing too, once i've nailed it !"

    Bowls can wait !

  12. #12
    Join Date
    24th April 2009 - 22:28
    Bike
    xr1200hd,99 dyna + choppers
    Location
    upper harlem
    Posts
    497
    so you are saying the bits of alloy came from an oil change?,as the oil returns through the filter on an fxr so bits of metal should stop at the filter.

  13. #13
    Join Date
    4th November 2007 - 16:56
    Bike
    A few
    Location
    OSR Clubrooms
    Posts
    4,852
    Quote Originally Posted by BIG DOUG View Post
    so you are saying the bits of alloy came from an oil change?,as the oil returns through the filter on an fxr so bits of metal should stop at the filter.
    Correct ! The bits of alloy came out of the filter (well there were quite a few scattered around the pin ya hang the filter on the drain tray) Like ya say the big twin motor oil flow goes tank - pump - engine - filter - tank ! There was even one bit that looked like it had been folded like it had been through a small gear (oil pump smallish) but had that apart and no evidence, nothing in the cam gears ! It's got me fucked ! To the point i'm thinkin, do i need a locking cap on my oil tank ?
    Tell me this Doug, have you done the big ends on an FXR ? If so, do the later (93) have an alloy retainer on the bearing or are they steel by then ?
    Been right through the engine and that's all thats left, apart from a theory of an alloy crimp washer that was lost during a previous teardown breaking free and making me spend a fortune ! But unless that made it's way into the cam gears and then got chomped up ? I mean WTF ?
    A girlfriend once asked " Why is it you seem to prefer to race, than spend time with me ?"
    The answer was simple ! "I'll prolly get bored with racing too, once i've nailed it !"

    Bowls can wait !

  14. #14
    Join Date
    24th April 2009 - 22:28
    Bike
    xr1200hd,99 dyna + choppers
    Location
    upper harlem
    Posts
    497
    Yes I have done a few cranks,should have been steel by then (93 on) but considering the age of the bike it could have had a crank rebuild by now and somebody could have put alloy cages back in but I dont think it would have got past the filter the mystery deepens.

  15. #15
    Join Date
    3rd November 2007 - 07:46
    Bike
    KTM 1290 SDR
    Location
    Palmerston North
    Posts
    3,962
    Hey Bill.........Wasn't that engine replaced with an S&S about 5-6 years ago?
    Nunquam Non Paratus

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •