Forced off the road by Nick Smith!

**oldrider** · 16th August 2010, 00:08

Currently I own four vehicles:

I have been adding up what costs are going to hit me now to keep them registered and stay using them on the road!

A Motorcycle. (955i Tiger) $517.25
A small (diesel) 2ltr 4x4 truck. $583.81 (which I use mostly off road)
A small station wagon. $281.61
A light trailer. $35.12
Registration total = $1417.79
Add on insurance and six monthly warrant of fitness checks? $$$!

56 years as licensed driver, two serious accidents (bike) totally my fault, one requiring an X-ray and a little Physiotherapy, nothing on the other, no other vehicles involved.

Back in the fifties I hit a pile driving truck that failed to give way and had no lights on in a narrow Petone street, very messy but other than hurrying, not my bloody fault!

Income, national superannuation and small (now very shaky) savings investment returns.

My solution other than selling them all and walking everywhere with my zimmer is:

Sell my motorcycle and quit riding motorcycles forever!

Place the diesel 4x4 truck registration on hold and leave it on the farm where I use it.
Replace 2x4 station wagon with a more universally suitable small (petrol) 4x4 vehicle.
Keep the trailer as is.

Revamped total annual registration (approximately) $316.73 - saving = $1101.06

I hate Nick Smith with a vengeance, the fucking bastard!

Anyone want to buy a tidy 06 Tiger with a few extras? What is it they say? "Reluctant sale"!

**Milts** · 16th August 2010, 01:09

I'm sorry to hear that, that seriously sucks... although surely giving up motorcycling should be the last resort? Or you could look to drop to something under the arbitrary 600cc limit...
Perhaps part of the ACC campaign should be to push for serious rego reductions for people who own multiple vehicles, it's not like someone who rides one bike 15 hours a week is any less likely to be hurt that someone riding bike #1 for 10 hours and bike #2 for 5 hours per week. It's a pretty hideiously discriminatory system.

**Brian d marge** · 16th August 2010, 01:16

Vote him out and anyone who does the same thing

Stephen

**Crazy Steve** · 16th August 2010, 01:22

Registration total = $1417.79

Some people would still say thats a Bargin ! ! !

Crazy Steve.

**Crazy Steve** · 16th August 2010, 01:24

Also you forgot to mention that petrol is getting closer and closer to $2 per litre again ! !

Crazy Steve.

**YellowDog** · 16th August 2010, 06:01

Originally Posted by Milts

I'm sorry to hear that, that seriously sucks... although surely giving up motorcycling should be the last resort? Or you could look to drop to something under the arbitrary 600cc limit...
Perhaps part of the ACC campaign should be to push for serious rego reductions for people who own multiple vehicles, it's not like someone who rides one bike 15 hours a week is any less likely to be hurt that someone riding bike #1 for 10 hours and bike #2 for 5 hours per week. It's a pretty hideiously discriminatory system.

There are not many who would not agree that the system is pretty damn stupid.

Surely a system whereby you pay the full levy on ONE of your registered vehicles and then a reduced rate for the others would be far more reasonable.

However - IMO They should split the ACC portion away from the rego fee.

If drivers/riders have to fund the ACC portion of the cover rather than the vehicle, this would get around the issue of many drivers/riders per vehicle.

Perhaps this could be admisistered through the driving licence register so that all drivers/riders had an annual ACC fee associated with their annual licence renewal?

Maybe this would be a way of refusing those who cannot see or have unpaid fines?

Just thinking out aloud here so no red blings thanks

Comments appreciated.

All I am saying is that there has to be a fairer way!

**PrincessBandit** · 16th August 2010, 07:36

Originally Posted by YellowDog

There are not many who would not agree that the system is pretty damn stupid.

Surely a system whereby you pay the full levy on ONE of your registered vehicles and then a reduced rate for the others would be far more reasonable.

However - IMO They should split the ACC portion away from the rego fee.

If drivers/riders have to fund the ACC portion of the cover rather than the vehicle, this would get around the issue of many drivers/riders per vehicle.

Perhaps this could be admisistered through the driving licence register so that all drivers/riders had an annual ACC fee associated with their annual licence renewal?

Maybe this would be a way of refusing those who cannot see or have unpaid fines?

Just thinking out aloud here so no red blings thanks

Comments appreciated.

All I am saying is that there has to be a fairer way!

Why would they want a fairer way when this method screws much more money out of us. They're obviously not concerned in the slightest about being voted out of power over it, so what to do ......what to do.......

**davereid** · 16th August 2010, 07:48

ACC needs a certain amount of money to operate. The exact amount is hard to determine, as ACC seem to be broke one minute, and investing billion-dollar surpluses the next.

But, during the original ACC protests, we calculated that a 0.12c per litre fuel price increase would fund all of the ACC vehicle account.

The reason ACC does not select this model tells us more about what is going on than any politician.

1) If ACC is funded by fuel tax, you cannot open the system to private enterprise, as you have no way of billing an individual.

2) ACC like to use punitive levies to shape the mix of our vehicle fleet. They can and will use levies to force undesirables (like oldrider?) off the road.

**danchop** · 16th August 2010, 07:49

Originally Posted by PrincessBandit

Why would they want a fairer way when this method screws much more money out of us. They're obviously not concerned in the slightest about being voted out of power over it, so what to do ......what to do.......

what about those of us that smoke ciggarettes and ride bikes?

**Banditbandit** · 16th August 2010, 08:14

Originally Posted by danchop

what about those of us that smoke ciggarettes and ride bikes?

We're dammed to whatever hell Nick Smith and co can concieve ...

**Okey Dokey** · 16th August 2010, 08:15

Jeez, oldrider, it does suck that ACC can ruin a very enjoyable hobby like riding for you. We, too, have had to make adjustments to our budget so that we can keep both gsxrs on the road. I guess we are lucky that there was enough wiggle room to allow us to do so. I wish you could find a way to keep motorcycling, too. Hopefully you can find something else that you can sacrifice instead.

**SMOKEU** · 16th August 2010, 09:52

Put the rego on hold and pay the fine if you get snapped. Make sure your insurance company still covers you if you do that.

**zahria** · 16th August 2010, 10:12

Originally Posted by SMOKEU

Put the rego on hold and pay the fine if you get snapped. Make sure your insurance company still covers you if you do that.

Or you can put reg on hold over winter, as I am doiing, and get back on the road in summer.
You can't give up like that, there has to be a way!

**jafar** · 16th August 2010, 11:04

2 cars @ $281.61 Each =563.22
2 bikes@ $517.25 Each =1034.50

total of $1597.72

$ 133.15 per month average.

$ 4.38 per day .

& that doesn't include the vehicles I drive for my job either.