Some things you just can't foresee...

**FJRider** · 22nd August 2010, 15:21

Originally Posted by Cayman911

yeah, there couldnt be a better example of going wide, followed by the consequences

And going by the amount of traffic going the other direction .... a totally forseeable result to "going wide" ....

**MsKABC** · 22nd August 2010, 15:52

Glad you escaped unscathed Slofox. The sad reality is that you have to ride as much as possible to be able to evade or brake with what little space may be provided to you, even though it isn't our fault at ALL if other people choose to drive like retards and some things may be completely unforeseen.

**shrub** · 23rd August 2010, 08:39

Originally Posted by Fluffy Cat

Well according to some on this site

...It would have been partly your fault if hit for riding at a speed (visions of man in front with red flag) at which you could not stop in the available distance. Not a view that would agree with but then I haven't been working on my self righteousness lately.
You survived which is a good thing.

According to some on this site it was purely because of the SUV driver's skill at avoiding Slofox that he wasn't hit, and it was entirely Slofox's fault for riding a bike - horrible, dangerous things!

**scumdog** · 23rd August 2010, 08:44

Originally Posted by slofox

Approaching a stop sign this morning - up the stem of a T intersection. Narrow road. View to the right is obscured by house and hedge.

A large 4x4 (Nissan Patrol or somesuch) comes blasting around the corner from my right - so fast that he comes right across the centre line and into my path. Then swerves to just miss me - as I did to miss him. Five metres further ahead on my part and smack! Bit lucky there.

Some things you just can't foresee...

New Zealand drivers are crap.

**shrub** · 23rd August 2010, 08:59

"A 38 year-old man has died after his motorbike crashed into a ute in Stratford, in Taranaki.

The ute was attempting a right-hand turn and drove into the path of the motorbike travelling in the opposite direction, a statement from police said.

Fire and ambulance staff tried to revive the motorcyclist but the man died at the scene.

The 59 year-old driver of the ute was not hurt."

A very sad thing to read, and such a preventable event. Motorcycles are not invisible so there is no excuse to turn across the path of one.

**oldrider** · 23rd August 2010, 09:19

IMHO the "authorities" promote that motorcycles shouldn't be there and people don't take them as legitimate and therefore "don't see them in their subconscious"!

Subconscious soon translates to concious and motorcycles become irrelevant and invisible to them!

Sorry officer I just didn't see the motorcycle!.........Sound familiar?

I Blame the "authorities" and people like AA's Mike Noone!

Unfortunately the behaviour of a small percentage of motorcyclists feeds their negative attitudes and boosts their public credibility!

**Old Steve** · 23rd August 2010, 20:28

Originally Posted by oldrider

Sorry officer I just didn't see the motorcycle!.........Sound familiar?

Such a statement admits negligence, and if negligence is established then private suit may be taken in the courts for damages and punitive awards.

Only problem, if the driver admits negligence, then his insurance comapny probably won't pay out any 3rd party coverage they have.

Glad he missed you Slofox, and you got to check your sphincter function for free.

**MarkH** · 24th August 2010, 11:46

Originally Posted by Old Steve

Only problem, if the driver admits negligence, then his insurance comapny probably won't pay out any 3rd party coverage they have.

Really? Are you certain of that?

**scumdog** · 25th August 2010, 02:13

Originally Posted by oldrider

Unfortunately the behaviour of a small percentage of motorcyclists feeds their negative attitudes and boosts their public credibility!

True John - if the actions of a very few members of Police can tarnish the whole organisation in the eyes of some then I don't doubt the actions of a few motorcyclists can do likewise to the rest of us.

**Katman** · 25th August 2010, 11:30

Originally Posted by shrub

According to some on this site it was purely because of the SUV driver's skill at avoiding Slofox that he wasn't hit, and it was entirely Slofox's fault for riding a bike - horrible, dangerous things!

Like who for example?

If you're suggesting that it would be my take on the situation it just shows how little you've understood of anything I've ever said.

The incident in the OP just goes to show the importance of expecting the unexpected and riding in a manner that leaves something in reserve should you need to take evasive action.

**avgas** · 25th August 2010, 11:36

yep that paint don't protect no-one from nothing.

**shrub** · 25th August 2010, 16:24

Originally Posted by Katman

Like who for example?

If you're suggesting that it would be my take on the situation it just shows how little you've understood of anything I've ever said.

The incident in the OP just goes to show the importance of expecting the unexpected and riding in a manner that leaves something in reserve should you need to take evasive action.

Wrong. Read the OP: "A large 4x4 (Nissan Patrol or somesuch) comes blasting around the corner from my right - so fast that he comes right across the centre line and into my path. Then swerves to just miss me - as I did to miss him. Five metres further ahead on my part and smack! Bit lucky there.

Some things you just can't foresee... "

5 metres further ahead and he'd be a statistic, and that 5 metres is a matter of timing not planning. When will you realise that some other road users drive dangerously, and that not all bike crashes are the fault of the rider?