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    An interesting choice and probably not much in it, but Agostini could win his races even on a much inferior bike. So I'll go with ago.
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    The newer generations are always going to go with Rossi, as we have no real yardstick of what Ago's performance at the time was like.

    Ago was the best of his time, and Rossi the best of his.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jantar View Post
    An interesting choice and probably not much in it, but Agostini could win his races even on a much inferior bike. So I'll go with ago.
    I think you must mean (surely) that Ago had FAR superior equipment to his rivals a LOT of the time. Rossi hasn't had it so easy.

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    If it was Vale /Hailwood I'd have to think.
    Ago was good but not in their league

    There's lies, damn statistics & lies or somein't like that

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    Ago beat a lot of hicks who spent the night before racing getting wasted. Rossi has beaten all comers, most of which are top level sportsmen in their own right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imdying View Post
    Ago beat a lot of hicks who spent the night before racing getting wasted. Rossi has beaten all comers, most of which are top level sportsmen in their own right.

    Yeah but you have to remember that a Stoner beat Rossi one year.....
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    Ago has competed at IOM. He has a JUMP named after him.

    Rossi alluded to never wanting to ride there in competition.

    Ago 1. Rossi 0.

    Edit - Personally I don't think you can really compare the two, with the conditions of their respective victories being so different...
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    Ago was probably a bit before my time (in terms of interest in motorcycles at least) so it's a bit hard for me to say...
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    ...and stuff the laws of physics; whats the worst that could happen???

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    Quote Originally Posted by gatch View Post
    Ago has competed at IOM. He has a JUMP named after him.

    Rossi alluded to never wanting to ride there in competition.

    Ago 1. Rossi 0.

    Edit - Personally I don't think you can really compare the two, with the conditions of their respective victories being so different...
    Pretty much sums things up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deano View Post
    Yeah but you have to remember that a Stoner beat Rossi one year.....
    He's a fast little bugger... but what about getting beaten by Hayden Mind you, Ago was beaten by Barry Sheene.

    Not wanting to ride the IOM just makes him saner.

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    Against all my hero worship,I'll have to go for Rossi.Ago had it stacked all on his side - most of the manufacturers dropped out of GP racing,and MV were left to just clean up at will.Ago was there,right place,right time.But his opponents were some of the best we have ever seen...will Stoner and Pedrosa be remembered in the same light as Hailwood and Read?

    But most important is who came second to Agostini -

    In 1970 2nd in the 500GP was Ginger Molloy...from NZ.

    In 1971 2nd in the 500GP was Keith Turner...from NZ.

    In 1973 2nd in the 500GP was Kim Newcombe...from NZ.

    Where are the Kiwi's giving Rossi a fight and only coming 2nd?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motu View Post
    will Stoner be remembered in the same light as Hailwood and Read?
    2000 miles west - yes. Elsewhere - he'd need to comfortably win 2 or three more maybe.

    One for you then; Will Mick be remembered in the same light as Hailwood?

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    Agostini was good, yes but for most of his career he was on the factory MV when much of the competition was either Manx Nortons or 350 Yamahas. (and the odd Bultaco, or Konig) After he left MV and went to Yamaha, and other riders were also getting access to Yamaha 500s, things evened out a bit.
    In Rossis case, most of his opposition has been on more or less equal machinery
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