Only a $50 fine for no helmet?

**Rogue Rider** · 24th August 2010, 20:46

Well, I like previous mentioned hated the editing format. It is a real put off and I would be reluctant to waste an evening to watch it again.
Back in the day, an MOT officer would have pulled the dude over on the ag, and had a chat. He would have most likely said, "now, whats the story sonny, (he would have called him sonny cause he probably knew his name, cause he was a real policeman) what brings you to be riding along the road without a helmet" The rider would have given an explanation like this, "well mr officer, i was just running my brother home from the farm, he been helpin me wif diggin some ditches" "well sonny, your probably used to it on the farm, but on the road, you really need to use a helmet. How far you goin, right, look I'll help you out this time, I'll take your bro home for you, and you can head back to the farm aye" Oh cheers mr officer, thank you....... No Fine. Education, and No stuck up wench police officer with an attitude.
I notice that the police all have attitude of "I'll nab the sucker, or but I'll only ping em for this much...... like that is being gracious, and educational. Everyone is sooooo appreciative of there consideration and good manners.

**steve_t** · 24th August 2010, 20:59

Originally Posted by Rogue Rider

Well, I like previous mentioned hated the editing format. It is a real put off and I would be reluctant to waste an evening to watch it again.
Back in the day, an MOT officer would have pulled the dude over on the ag, and had a chat. He would have most likely said, "now, whats the story sonny, (he would have called him sonny cause he probably knew his name, cause he was a real policeman) what brings you to be riding along the road without a helmet" The rider would have given an explanation like this, "well mr officer, i was just running my brother home from the farm, he been helpin me wif diggin some ditches" "well sonny, your probably used to it on the farm, but on the road, you really need to use a helmet. How far you goin, right, look I'll help you out this time, I'll take your bro home for you, and you can head back to the farm aye" Oh cheers mr officer, thank you....... No Fine. Education, and No stuck up wench police officer with an attitude.
I notice that the police all have attitude of "I'll nab the sucker, or but I'll only ping em for this much...... like that is being gracious, and educational. Everyone is sooooo appreciative of there consideration and good manners.

Huh? Did we watch the same show? The show I saw had a dude that refused to stop. When he finally stopped the convo was
"why are you riding on the road without a helmet?"
"I'm not on the road"
"What do you call this?"
"Uh... the road."

The worst part was that he had his little brother on the back without a helmet too.

And of course the best part was "I didn't stop because the bike doesn't have any brakes"

It makes me laugh that people like the dude in his missus' Subaru and the agro woman whose rego ran out and was driving without her seatbelt as well as without her glasses on get so shitty at the cops because the cops are enforcing the law. Either don't break the law in the first place or at least man up and take the consequences of getting caught without whining like a bitch and complaining about the cops.

The editing is crap like that cos they want you to sit and watch the whole show to find out what happens. If they did each piece one at a time, you're less likely to watch the entire thing... well, that's my theory anyway. But I agree, it's a pain in the ass

**Kickaha** · 24th August 2010, 22:45

Originally Posted by Rogue Rider

I notice that the police all have attitude of "I'll nab the sucker, or but I'll only ping em for this much...... like that is being gracious, and educational. Everyone is sooooo appreciative of there consideration and good manners.

Would you rather they had the attitude "I'll nab the sucker but I'll ping him for everyfucking thing I can"?

The guy riding the bike was being a cock he deserved everything he got

**duckonin** · 25th August 2010, 09:33

Originally Posted by Patrick

Yep - no lid = $50 now... was $150.... but to appease those claiming it was all revenue collecting, one of the new reduced revenue collecting fines.....

$150 for failing to give way....

Tell that to the cop in the South it cost him more than $150 4 'failing to give way.

**Banditbandit** · 25th August 2010, 09:41

Originally Posted by Toaster

Anyone not wearing a helmet is a complete idiot.

Talk about being sucked in by the bullshit propoganda ...

Many of us remember the days before helmets were legally required ... and the fight we had to keep it that way ... we lost ... just like we've largely lost the ACC battle ..

**red mermaid** · 25th August 2010, 09:49

Oh yeah, the good old days of the 1950's, or was it the 1960's.

It used to great tootling along on the BSA or Enfield avoiding the sheep on SH 1 as you puttered along at 30 mph.

**oldrider** · 25th August 2010, 09:57

Originally Posted by steve_t

Huh? Did we watch the same show? The show I saw had a dude that refused to stop. When he finally stopped the convo was
"why are you riding on the road without a helmet?"
"I'm not on the road"
"What do you call this?"
"Uh... the road."

The worst part was that he had his little brother on the back without a helmet too.

And of course the best part was "I didn't stop because the bike doesn't have any brakes"

It makes me laugh that people like the dude in his missus' Subaru and the agro woman whose rego ran out and was driving without her seatbelt as well as without her glasses on get so shitty at the cops because the cops are enforcing the law. Either don't break the law in the first place or at least man up and take the consequences of getting caught without whining like a bitch and complaining about the cops.

The editing is crap like that cos they want you to sit and watch the whole show to find out what happens. If they did each piece one at a time, you're less likely to watch the entire thing... well, that's my theory anyway. But I agree, it's a pain in the ass

I guess these are sprinklings of the more intelligent new Zealand citizens on display!

**Banditbandit** · 25th August 2010, 10:02

Originally Posted by red mermaid

Oh yeah, the good old days of the 1950's, or was it the 1960's.

It used to great tootling along on the BSA or Enfield avoiding the sheep on SH 1 as you puttered along at 30 mph.

It was the end of 1973 (I think - about then anyway) when they introduced compulsory helmets in Godzone ... and bikes then would go passed the ton .. even Enfields. (BSA's had been doing it for years)

**red mermaid** · 25th August 2010, 10:13

Oh ok, thats only 37 years ago.

Originally Posted by Banditbandit

It was the end of 1973 (I think - about then anyway) when they introduced compulsory helmets in Godzone ... and bikes then would go passed the ton .. even Enfields. (BSA's had been doing it for years)

**avgas** · 25th August 2010, 10:48

No wof is definitely more dangerous.
No wof means he could do everything in his power and the bike would fail causing a crash.
No helmet just means he will only make one mistake in his life. And the the general public will never have to deal with him again.

I say decrease the fine for no helmet to $10

**Banditbandit** · 25th August 2010, 11:02

Originally Posted by avgas

No wof is definitely more dangerous.
No wof means he could do everything in his power and the bike would fail causing a crash.
No helmet just means he will only make one mistake in his life. And the the general public will never have to deal with him again.

I say decrease the fine for no helmet to $10

I hate to point this out ... but I've dropped a bike when I had no helmet on .. and I'm stilll here ...