Anyone using Shinko Apex 010s?

[ynot slow]

"named" tyres means jack shi...

were they sporty "named" crusing "named" scooter "named" was the guy on the TL a throttle jockey? was his suspension set up, was teh SV ridden by a lady? was the SV suspension set up?


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Your sarcastic point being?
I said the dealer said shinko and named brand(can't remember if metzler or pirelli)and both riders capable of hooning,but mostly they were responsible types.My point was comparing tyres on similar bikes(both V twins,not cruiser and sports bike),riding on same road surface and distance,he offered his opinion.I thought he gave honest responces to my questions,as he said a batch of Continental tyres came from Korea a while back and people were non the wiser.Me I'm happy to pay around $630 for PR2's fitted etc,but those with budget may like to pay $490 for shinko,for me the extra $50 or so per tyre was a premium I was prepared to pay for.

[NZsarge]

shinkos are all good, provided its dry and warm...

My brother ran a set of (at that time) the sportier Shinko's on his FJR 1300 in Ozzy, he thought they were pretty good but that said he reckoned he probably would'nt run them if he were back in NZ.
As you said... DRY and WARM.

[Owl]

he said a batch of Continental tyres came from Korea a while back and people were non the wiser.

Yeah but Koreans make some good shit................not that you'll catch me riding on Samsung tyres

[R1madness]

I agree, pay the extra and have the security and peace of mind. I saw a guy come off his Aprilia big time at Ruapuna a couple of weeks ago when the rear tyre let go ( Shinko front and rear )

To be fair you have to tell the full story.

The rider is a good mate of mine and i talked to him a lot about the crash. Turns out he was trying to slide the rear while practicing wheelstands like max biaggi when it let go and highsided him. He is not blaiming the tires only poor throttle control on his behalf and maybe a couple of clicks of rebound might have helped.
I have a set of the APEX on my GSXR1000 and have riden to the brass monkey and back, the west coast and back, round the block, akaroa GP (local chch thing), commuted and 2 up work. The Shinkos work great, warm up well and offer good levels of grip. The front is stable under braking and offers decent feel mid corner. The rear grip is fine (turn in is a little slower than the pirellis i replaced)and stability is excellent. Tire life will be somewhere around 6000km but that is using sports tire pressures, if i sacrificed a lillte bit of grip i could have increased the mileage by about 2000km.
For the ROAD they make a great sports tire. On the track i would say that if you are smooth and have a flowing style you will probibly like these tires but if your all brakes and throttle you will probibly not. Would i "race" on them? Probibly not as there are proper "full race tires" available but for a performance street tire that might see the odd track day they are great.

And yes they will let you get a knee down..... if thats your thing....

Remember that Shinko make lots of different levels of tire, yes the std fitment on a gn250 was a shinko. it was crap but so was the (chineese made) bike. Everyone makes different levels of tire and to judge a brand on its lowest entry level tire is not fiar, Lets face it Bridgestone makes some bloody average tires but the ones supplied to motogp seem ok for grip

[porky]

any thing will let go if you push it hard enough. Yes ive had shinko, and didnt bin it because of them or any other reason, but it was a low hp bike and i didnt ride it like rossi. My experience is a brand wont give you what you are after. Look at the products in the range and match them with what you intend to do, then compare price etc.

[PaddyFZ1]

If your putting them on your Fazer, id go for either Mich Pilot road or conti Road Attacks. Ive run both these on my gen 1, and gen 2 Fazer. They will give you the best life and grip. Ive run both these at Hampton downs on my gen 2, and had a bast, no problems at all. They even looked better than my mates who were running sportier compounds and circulating slower than i was.

[CHOPPA]

I have tested the shinkos and they had just as much grip on the track as the conti slicks I tested. Pirelli rears are fine but the front tyres not. Metz are similar to pirelli and michelin were horrible. Dunlop are the best.

What im trying to say is if the Shinkos are cheaper then that would be the option id take

[rie]

Advance 005s are sports tires like the Apex 010s. I am not going to comment on the Apex but I can comment on the Advance. They are perfectly fine for inner city riding, motorway, etc that you get for commuting, and just fine in the wet. As a student I can only assume you will commute on these 90% of the time. For track days you need to be so much more aware of what you are doing. I find the Advance extremely difficult to get hot but then, I don't weigh much. Having said that, most track riders will be sensitive to the state of their tires anyway. My biggest concern with the Advance has been that the profile does not instil much confidence in high speed cornering. If you go look at a rear tire on one of those you will see what I mean.

Based on that experience I would say, if you are on a strict budget then get the Apex.

But some excellent budget-friendly alternatives are:

Investing in second hand tires (or at least, just the front tire) of a superior brand for those track days. You can get lots of second hand tires with heaps of tread left on them perfect for occasional trackday-ers like yourself. And keep the Apex for commuting - they will last forever.

A second alternative is to get a shinko rear but a better quality front.

[riffer]

A second alternative is to get a shinko rear but a better quality front.

Exactly. As Valentino Rossi is rumoured to have said, put a tyre you absolutely love on the front of the motorcycle. Then put something round and black on the rear.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Remember that Shinko make lots of different levels of tire, yes the std fitment on a gn250 was a shinko. it was crap but so was the (chineese made) bike. Everyone makes different levels of tire and to judge a brand on its lowest entry level tire is not fiar, Lets face it Bridgestone makes some bloody average tires but the ones supplied to motogp seem ok for grip

I have tested the shinkos and they had just as much grip on the track as the conti slicks I tested. Pirelli rears are fine but the front tyres not. Metz are similar to pirelli and michelin were horrible. Dunlop are the best.

What im trying to say is if the Shinkos are cheaper then that would be the option id take

And there you have it. They're actually good tyres, and even better value.

[sapperj]

I ride a Hobag gt250r and it has the std Shinko tyres.
In the Dry, I have pushed pretty hard (as far as a 2fiddy will go) on the piecock hill, rimutakas etc... Front gets a bit dodgy under hard braking and the rear feels like it drops in pretty good.
Wet... scared shitless
And yes I have dropped it... Akatarawas on a wet road. rear let go, usal story...
Probally a combination of alot of things but dosent inspire confidance.

Will I buy Shinkos again? No.

Jas

[avgas]

Whats your riding style boss?

I actually enjoyed have shinko rear on my 01 Fazer.
Its suited my style perfectly as I could either drift (putting more weight into the front) or carve the corners.

Shinko's on the front was awesome if you were just commuting, but the FZ1 had too much weight in the front for the tyre for me when I pushed it. But in saying that I would kill a battleaxe front in about 3,000km when I got it super sticky. So mabey I am a rought c*nt.

[skippa1]

your tyres keep your arse in the seat and not skidding down the road. had Shinkos, Michlins, Pirellis, Dunlops etc. Wouldnt skimp on safety of a good tyre, maybe an extra $100 bucks a set, for anything. Michilins for me every time. Why spend good gold on a bike then skimp or gamble on the bits that keep you upright.

[DarkLord]

Michelins all the way.

I've run both and Michelins, to my mind, are far superior, especially in the wet.

It's worth paying a bit more for better quality.

[carver]

you n00bs need to wise up

i could roll 2 up stoppies in the rain on shinko 003s

on the DRZ-SM