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    sweet, thanks for all the info chaps.

    avgas - yep i grasped the meaning of the hybrid name, was just curious to what extent the two were interbred. wonder where they are made now? was looking at 2003+ models anyway, like the look a little better - particularly the frame.

    imdying - nice reply! i guess the GSXR stuff gives you instant upgrades, plenty of aftermarket options and better brake options too huh. sounds like a worthwhile swap. what kind of money does the gixxer stuff go for? and yeah i figured a pig in a poke would handle better than my clapped out old suzi, especially with big old me on the back of it. you mentioned height differences between S and N. i was leaning towards the N because i prefer the look of it, but also because i like the more upright seating position it looks like it offers. presumably it cant be ridden as agressively as the S? but i've no doubt the N will be capable beyond my abilities for some time to come.

    slofox - nice insights, i guess like you say you can only compare to what you have ridden. what are emulators exactly? still a bit new to all this bike tech talk
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    Quote Originally Posted by st00ji View Post
    sweet, thanks for all the info chaps.

    avgas - yep i grasped the meaning of the hybrid name, was just curious to what extent the two were interbred. wonder where they are made now? was looking at 2003+ models anyway, like the look a little better - particularly the frame.

    imdying - nice reply! i guess the GSXR stuff gives you instant upgrades, plenty of aftermarket options and better brake options too huh. sounds like a worthwhile swap. what kind of money does the gixxer stuff go for? and yeah i figured a pig in a poke would handle better than my clapped out old suzi, especially with big old me on the back of it. you mentioned height differences between S and N. i was leaning towards the N because i prefer the look of it, but also because i like the more upright seating position it looks like it offers. presumably it cant be ridden as agressively as the S? but i've no doubt the N will be capable beyond my abilities for some time to come.

    slofox - nice insights, i guess like you say you can only compare to what you have ridden. what are emulators exactly? still a bit new to all this bike tech talk
    Complete GSXR front ends can be had for (comparitively) fuck all out of the states. The only real issue is Suzuki, in their infinite wisdom, decided to drive the SV650s speedo off the front wheel, where as every other late model Suzuki is driven from the countershaft sprocket.

    There's a number of outfits in Eruope doing big bore and stroker kits for them, radical cams, even stronger casings. If you had the wallet you could go absolutely mental with one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BuzzardNZ View Post
    Only bad thing about the SV's is the seat. It's as hard as a fucking rock.
    You're right there! Funny thing is I got the replacement lower seat from Suzuki Japan, and i reckon it's actually comfier than the original.

    Other than that the SV is a great little(ish) sporty bike. As everyone else has said the only real failing is that the suspension components aren't the latest and greatest, but there are heaps of upgrades available.

    Apparently they don't do too bad on the track either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by st00ji View Post
    avgas - yep i grasped the meaning of the hybrid name, was just curious to what extent the two were interbred. wonder where they are made now? was looking at 2003+ models anyway, like the look a little better - particularly the frame.
    Actually there was very little wrong with the pre-2003 bikes. And this is why Hyosung has done so well with the GT650 range.
    I fear the new ones may actually be made somewhere worse.......Suzuki has lots of production facilities in China, Malaysia, Indonesia......
    But even then I think quality would have only dropped a fraction.

    Good luck with the new bike - and I envy you lol
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    i presume there is some solution for the speedo issue? or is it estimation? :P

    avgas - yep im sure the pre 03s are fine too, i certainly didnt find anything in my searching to indicate otherwise. indeed i've not heard many a bad thing said about the hyos either, apart from general snobbishness (been known to indulge myself from time to time )

    why do ya envy me? and i havent bought anything yet, still on 6R for another month or two

    edit - as for production quality, i have no concerns on this front. the chinese or whoever else can surely provide plenty of skilled workers, seems to me its just a case of you get what you pay for. lots of very cheap stuff gets made in those places, but i have no doubt you can get good quality if you dont mind paying for it. im sure suzuki wouldnt want to damage its image by selling complete shit boxes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by st00ji View Post
    i presume there is some solution for the speedo issue? or is it estimation? :P
    I'm working on it, wouldn't be too difficult I don't think.

    Quote Originally Posted by st00ji View Post
    im sure suzuki wouldnt want to damage its image by selling complete shit boxes.
    Ask anyone who owns a let model, Chinese assembled GN250 that. Total rusty pieces of shit which need the valve clearances adjusted by the first (800km) service otherwise all hell breaks loose.

    I'm pretty sure that the SVs are produced in either a Japanese or Taiwanese factory.

    As for Hyosungs, there's nothing actually wrong with them but they're far from anywhere near as good as an SV650.
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    Quote Originally Posted by st00ji View Post
    why do ya envy me? and i havent bought anything yet
    Newish bike....
    right now my newish bike is the 87 FZR......
    the other is an 86 SRX

    Both don't have warrents right now.....
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    Great bikes, within their limitations[suspension and an "old fashioned" riding position for the S. I think worthwhile improvements were made on the Gen2 K5 onwards models over the Gen2 K3-4-Seating and suspension, I think? Slofox offers the experienced opinion. Funny rear tyre size. Seem good value on TM. You could easily spend 2-3K doing up the suspension-why not buy a GSXR?

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    Quote Originally Posted by st00ji View Post
    i presume there is some solution for the speedo issue? or is it estimation? :P
    vapor do pretty good digital gauges, heaps of people run them on bros/hawks, easy install and you save a bit of weight too!
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    Great bikes, within their limitations[suspension and an "old fashioned" riding position for the S[can get quite "wristy"]. I think worthwhile improvements were made on the Gen2 K5 onwards models over the Gen2 K3-4-Seating and suspension, I think? Slofox offers the experienced opinion. Funny rear tyre size. Seem good value on TM. You could easily spend 2-3K doing up the suspension-why not buy a GSXR?

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    Quote Originally Posted by White trash View Post

    Ask anyone who owns a let model, Chinese assembled GN250 that. Total rusty pieces of shit which need the valve clearances adjusted by the first (800km) service otherwise all hell breaks loose.

    I'm pretty sure that the SVs are produced in either a Japanese or Taiwanese factory.

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    Yea, I'm pretty sure my K6 is listed as being manufactured in Nippon.

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    By far one of the best bikes I've ever owned. You can do anything to it and its almost failsafe. Mine was the older model and had a yoshi pipe. Hmmmmmmm - good sound

    Overall it was an excellent machine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pwalo View Post
    Yea, I'm pretty sure my K6 is listed as being manufactured in Nippon.
    The book reckoned my K7 was made in Japania...
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    Quote Originally Posted by st00ji View Post

    what are emulators exactly? still a bit new to all this bike tech talk
    In a nutshell (in my own simplistic language) a "Cartridge Emulator Kit" converts the damper rod forks from fixed rate oil flow to variable rate oil flow. So you get more compliant suspension. Something like that. Have a look online - plenty of info out there...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SVboy View Post
    why not buy a GSXR?
    Coz it's not a v-twin

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