Trademe ignorance

[Ramius]

Okay, aside from this guy being a backyard dealer, John you came right out and contradicted his advertisement! He probably thought at first it was a 'Pt' cos what twit (with respect to all good twits) would possibly ask the seller your question assuming that it had been raced when the ad specifically states at the end of the first paragraph: "IMPORTED LAST YEAR IN ORIGINAL CONDITION, NEVER RACED."

Read the ad next time John, no sympathy here dude.

Well, not really, IMPORTED LAST YEAR IN ORIGINAL CONDITION, NEVER RACED, could mean that it has never been raced in NZ, but what the hell do I know. I'm cold.

[Odin]

The plot thickens......

But look at the view counter.... was 129 or something when this thread started. LOL nearing 700 now, and 6 unaswered Q's .... Proves the saying "any publicity is good publicity"

[John]

Thanks for the replies - I'm not really upset about it, It just seems that saying that when it has a very questionable history is something that you shouldn’t say, I know maybe I sounded a bit rude and I didn’t mean to be that being the case, but who knows.

I don’t mean to insult him, but I just find his remarks spiteful - If he said "I'm not sure if it was raced", I would have being happy and thanked him but just his remarks seemed very abrupt and hasty to make remarks like the 'zxr and death etc' yea seems nice..

I don’t care I just thought I would share it with everyone, because it was a ideal looking bike.

just in case he doesn’t reply to the reply this is what I said to him:

Not I didn’t miss it not interested in the sale myself - I was asking a serious question for a non trade me member before he called you. I wouldn’t want a TZR I'd be inclined to be buying an RS but whatever tickles your self mate.

(ps speedmedic, No I wasn’t attacking him - I was seriously questioning its history more than anything)

I shouldn’t have posted this – don’t mean any ‘personal grievance to anyone’ just ignore it and let it die..

[John]

Oh here we go, you're excused then! You are entitled to be contradictory John .

So why did you ask your question as though the bike had been raced, even though the seller never said anything about racing? It's obvious he took offence at you assuming the worst case scenario and leading other potential buyers away from what is probably a good buy!!

Ok I don’t really get where your coming from? I was asking for a potential buyer, serious question - I don’t see why people wouldn’t want to buy a raced 2smoke, they are normally better looked after in comparison to a majority of the road versions, due to regular strip downs etc.

Of course - the customer is always right!? But surely the "gumboot" remark is relating to the seller possibly knowing this potential buyer who wasted his time in a previous sale? Read 2nd comment by seller.

...the story unfolds

Nope, sorry he obviously was confused - never met nor looked at 2smokes before

You know we love you John, but have you got any witnesses that can testify that the accused did in fact edit the advert?

A) TristanK
B)

The edit was put there later so that it was clear that it was not raced to anybody else that read the ad.

Good effort zed, I appreciate a good battle, have to go knock back a few pints and talk about politics

[250learna]

Um excuse me he edited the advert thankyou, never had 'not raced' in there before, when I saw it last night.

that explains the question being asked. I thought you just didnt read the auction.

he does come offa bit nutty
not the kinda guy you want to buy anything off,and it doesnt help that you know he got it for bout $700 less and doesnt seem to have done anything to it cept clocked on 1k.

I was wondering if anyone else picked that up. I havent seen him post in here yet so maybe it was?

and caps do point to a certain someone on this website wierd that he hasnt posted yet since we usualy hear alot from him

[gav]

Stomps on CBR's??? pfffttt, anytime, matey, anytime.....

[N4CR]

You know we love you John, but have you got any witnesses that can testify that the accused did in fact edit the advert?

Yep... witness right here buddy. I had a good read last night and went :| yes buy a FAST bike in 89 and then go run same tyres for 16 years good luck.. they wouldnt even wof/reg them here. After working at motat I know what happens to tyres that old, they arent exactly 'useable' most of the time.

But yeah he has quite blatently edited it.. crafty bugger.

[FROSTY:Me]

not the kinda guy you want to buy anything off,and it doesnt help that you know he got it for bout $700 less and doesnt seem to have done anything to it cept clocked on 1k. :

So there is something wrong with making money in this country??

[Ramius]

Why is everybody using Spudchuka's Avatar? I am getting so confused...

Right, as you were gov'na

[N4CR]

Why is everybody using Spudchuka's Avatar? I am getting so confused...

Right, as you were gov'na

Well it was in some other thread and in the site stuff.. but basically everyone is being switched over to it by the server. Kinda like the flame warrior avatars, but for everyone. I'm suprised yours hasn't changed yet mate.

[John]

Well it was in some other thread and in the site stuff.. but basically everyone is being switched over to it by the server. Kinda like the flame warrior avatars, but for everyone. I'm suprised yours hasn't changed yet mate.

Nah only the intelamagents get it.

[250learna]

So there is something wrong with making money in this country??

yes frosty that is EXACTLY what I ment with that post. Thanks for clearing that up

[XTC]

Doesn't matter anyway as that was the absolute worst model of TZR ever made and I would suggest that no one ever buy one of those POS. You have been warned. If you must get a two stroke get the NSR or RGV. Better still get a fourstroke unless you are mechanically minded.

Go to technical bulletin 105 in the links.
6 pages of "adjustments" deemed neccessary by Yamaha NZ to prevent these bike from shitting themselves. Who knows whether these mods were carried out on Jap bikes?
http://www2.phys.waikato.ac.nz/~scotty/TZRInfo.html

[Ixion]

.. doesnt help that you know he got it for bout $700 less and doesnt seem to have done anything to it cept clocked on 1k.


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Nowt wrong with that. Done a bit of it myself back in the day - in fact I put myself through Uni that way

If he can see an opportunity and take advantage of it what's wrong with that. The original seller got the price he asked, and is therefore presumably happy. The new buyer is offering only what he thinks it's worth. If there's a difference that's Mr davev2's reward for spotting hidden value. Ron Brierley got to be a millionaire by doing exactly that (of course, as a Communist, I don't approve of millionaires, unless they give me a decent cut of the action )

[250learna]

Nowt wrong with that. Done a bit of it myself back in the day - in fact I put myself through Uni that way

If he can see an opportunity and take advantage of it what's wrong with that. The original seller got the price he asked, and is therefore presumably happy. The new buyer is offering only what he thinks it's worth. If there's a difference that's Mr davev2's reward for spotting hidden value. Ron Brierley got to be a millionaire by doing exactly that (of course, as a Communist, I don't approve of millionaires, unless they give me a decent cut of the action )

i have nothing against someone making a quick buck over trademe.
I was just saying that he has a bad attitude
the price he payed for me has some suggestion for what its worth...he might have goten a bargain but usualy when it seems to good to be true it is.
another thing is that if a guy is an arse i would rather not buy from him even if it is a good deal, specially if i know he is making money on me.
hope that clarifies it