ACC vehicle modifications

[Headbanger]

Pretty sure my bike doesn't have a rear brake.

Sure there is a brake lever down by my foot but im sure its some sort of retro-fuckery, just there for looks.

I have pressed it a few times, to fuck all effect.

[Headbanger]

Wait what? The rear brake is the one that you should be using most extensively. When braking you want to be applying your rear brake first to lessen the load on the front wheel, if you're justing using your front brake your front wheel will be taking the full load, this significantly increases the chance of it letting go. ALWAYS brake with the rear first!

You speak from inexperience, Suggest you stfu, No one likes to see someone spread misinformation.

Unless its about your mum.

[Headbanger]

Thanks for the tip, maybe you can teach me about counter-steering next, and then how to get "the clap", being that you're from "hamiltr0n" and all.

I can help.

Send round some skank pussy, I'll fuck her and send her back so you can have a go.

[Gubb]

I can help.

Send round some skank pussy, I'll fuck her and send her back so you can have a go.

Speaking of which, whatever happened to the BRU?

[Mental Trousers]

That's not correct.

The reason for applying the rear brake first is that it helps to compress the front suspension and stabilize it so that when you apply lots of pressure on the front brake it doesn't lock up from lack of weight.

Having properly adjusted and maintained suspension you can get away with not using the rear brake at all. You throttle off, the front dips a bit but doesn't bounce and you can then apply lots of front brake without washing out.

Weight on the front = grip at the front

Wait what? The rear brake is the one that you should be using most extensively. When braking you want to be applying your rear brake first to lessen the load on the front wheel, if you're justing using your front brake your front wheel will be taking the full load, this significantly increases the chance of it letting go. ALWAYS brake with the rear first!

[pete376403]

Would you please explain to me why I'm wrong? (Not trolling or trying to start an argument, I'm actually curious and if I'm under a false impression I wouldn't mind being corrected.)

Weight transfer during braking (with front brake) puts more weight onto front tyre increasing contact between road and tyre. Ever wondered why bikes have two disks on the front and only one (or a drum brake) on the rear? It's not for looks.
Conversely when braking with rear brake the back tyre is unloaded and will lock (and thus skid) more easily.

Alos regardless of how ineffective the back brake may or may not be - with regard to the original post. The guy wants both brakes (and has to have two brakes if the bike is to pass a warrant).

ACC may well pay for the alterations, but will probably want to increase registration fees to cover it

[Vinz0r]

Thanks for the explanation guys, always good to be corrected when you're under a false impression.

[SMOKEU]

I can help.

Send round some skank pussy, I'll fuck her and send her back so you can have a go.

[davereid]

Do you think a driving instructor will have a major problem with having no rear brake when i get round to doing my restricted finally?

Hmm I like that one.

As actually, your bike will have a rear brake, and will be at WOF standard.

Its just that you are unable to use it.

Renegade Master made the excellent suggestion of linked brakes, but no doubt NZTA will have a series of expensive hoops for you to jump through if you want to add them.

This is no doubt the case for your thumb operated brake as well, unless you can show thats it is OEM equipment for your motorcycle.

Once again, your desire to be safe and have good brakes is likely to be well fucked over by the NZTA and the law of unintended consequences.

[FROSTY:Me]

And back to the question asked .......
I feel you are extremely unlikely to get funding to modify your bike from ACC.
Rightly or wrongly their view is that bikes are dangerous and cars are safe.
If you do decide to explore fitting a thumb brake yourself you will need to get a cert for the modification.

[MSTRS:Me]

This is a valid point. TPTB are making it harder to legally fit, or substitute, non-OEM equipment to any vehicle.
Wof requirements are for brakes at both ends, whether you use both or not.
Both activators must operate the brake light - this might be the sticking point, in that a single activator (lever/pedal) negates this ability.

[p.dath]

Wait what? The rear brake is the one that you should be using most extensively. When braking you want to be applying your rear brake first to lessen the load on the front wheel, if you're justing using your front brake your front wheel will be taking the full load, this significantly increases the chance of it letting go. ALWAYS brake with the rear first!

It's not such a black and white issue. Check out my blog on emergency braking, and you'll see opinions vary on the subject based on where in the world you are from, and what kind of bike you have.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/en...rgency-Braking

[p.dath]

Do you think a driving instructor will have a major problem with having no rear brake when i get round to doing my restricted finally?

The only thing they will care about is that you can demonstrate that you can do all the items in the test in a safe manner.

[dogsnbikes]

Pretty sure my bike doesn't have a rear brake.

Sure there is a brake lever down by my foot but im sure its some sort of retro-fuckery, just there for looks.

Its coz you only have half a swingarm leaving no place for a rear brake

[Mom]

Speaking of which, whatever happened to the BRU?

We never smelled like pooh, silly MB's pussied out and stopped defending themselves from the death blows of the bithces