Northern toll road? No rego? Fines?

**SMOKEU** · 9th October 2010, 11:50

Originally Posted by p.dath

So your annual rego includes funds for things like ACC in case you have an accident, the wear and tear of a public shared resource - the road, the maintenance of the register so they know who is responsible for a vehicle, etc.

So if you expect to be able to receive medical treatment for an accident on your bike, assistance if your vehicle is suspected of being stolen, and the use of a shared road with everyone else then you should be paying your rego.

Like someone else has said, if you can't afford to pay the rego, weather you agree with the fee or not, you can't afford to operate that vehicle on the public shared road.
Remember, the rego is a way we all contribute towards a shared resource - not something that only you use personally.

Otherwise your bludging off everyone else who has paid to provide the resources that you are taking.

Just as an example, rugby players phuck themselves up playing their sport with alarming frequency. If you have a bunch of big guys tackling eachother, one would expect injuries. These rugby players sometimes take time off work due to their injuries, so ACC has to pay for treatment and loss of income. Why should motorists have to fund sports players who don't pay these ACC levy's?

**p.dath** · 9th October 2010, 11:58

Originally Posted by SMOKEU

Just as an example, rugby players phuck themselves up playing their sport with alarming frequency. If you have a bunch of big guys tackling eachother, one would expect injuries. These rugby players sometimes take time off work due to their injuries, so ACC has to pay for treatment and loss of income. Why should motorists have to fund sports players who don't pay these ACC levy's?

ACC is deducted from their wages. But that is beside the point.

You're still using a shared resource, the road, and everyone is sharing the cost of it.

**Edbear** · 9th October 2010, 12:04

Originally Posted by SMOKEU

That's because the government lets unemployed people rack up thousands of $ worth of fines before they do anything about it.

I bought the bike and gear before I was a poor student. I'm finding it hard enough to scrape up the cash to fill up the petrol tank, vehicle licensing is something I can't afford even if I wanted to pay it.

I'm not without sympathy for being a poor student, but you have to prioritise your expenses. I've managed to get through life not breaking the law, (mostly...

), and while there are times you may do so inadvertantly, you have to cut your pattern to fit your cloth, so to speak, and live within your means. The fact that you are tight for money won't stop the law from fining you and you can't complain if you get caught. When necessary I resorted to a pushbike, walking, bus or hitched a ride.

It's not easy out there but that's life, I'm afraid.

**yachtie10** · 9th October 2010, 12:04

Originally Posted by p.dath

So your annual rego includes funds for things like ACC in case you have an accident, the wear and tear of a public shared resource - the road, the maintenance of the register so they know who is responsible for a vehicle, etc.

So if you expect to be able to receive medical treatment for an accident on your bike, assistance if your vehicle is suspected of being stolen, and the use of a shared road with everyone else then you should be paying your rego.

Like someone else has said, if you can't afford to pay the rego, weather you agree with the fee or not, you can't afford to operate that vehicle on the public shared road.
Remember, the rego is a way we all contribute towards a shared resource - not something that only you use personally.

Otherwise your bludging off everyone else who has paid to provide the resources that you are taking.

jeez phil your sounding like an old man
Just for interest sake what part of the registration pays for road maintenance? or police? its a new one on me

unfortunately its a downside of democracy (well the form of it we have) that these are the rules and we must pay whether we wanted the system or not. I dont mind paying but do mind that I have to pay for both vehicles when in my case only one is used at a time.

**Subike** · 9th October 2010, 12:31

Registration bah Humbug,
WOF yeap worth the money spent

Cameras,
$15 for the gizmo that lowers you numer plat flat over 50kph
Democrasy freedom of choice, I chose not to reg.
No af ACC claims in 53 years ONE

**p.dath** · 9th October 2010, 15:10

Originally Posted by yachtie10

jeez phil your sounding like an old man
Just for interest sake what part of the registration pays for road maintenance? or police? its a new one on me

So the registration database keeps a list of number plates and registered owners. When Police see suspicious activity or pull someone over they often see if the driver/rider matches the registered owner. If so, move onto something else interesting.

If not, then it may warrant further investigation.

However this information is only good if it is current - aka the vehicle is registered.

**Mully** · 9th October 2010, 17:17

I recall seeing a UK Police patrol show on Sky where they have cameras that pick uninsured cars from scanning number plates.

My thoughts at the time was it was "matter-of-time" before they were utilised here - either for rego/WOF or for when insurance becomes compulsory.

**The Everlasting** · 9th October 2010, 20:30

Originally Posted by SMOKEU

I bought the bike and gear before I was a poor student. I'm finding it hard enough to scrape up the cash to fill up the petrol tank, vehicle licensing is something I can't afford even if I wanted to pay it.

Yeah it certainly is tougher,now that the registration costs went up,I just paid $138 for 3 months!!!

**Taz** · 9th October 2010, 20:32

Originally Posted by SMOKEU

Why should we be singled out as a minority group and pay more than cagers? We're consuming fewer fossil fuels, polluting the environment less, doing less damage to the roads etc, so the government should be rewarding us.

We're crashing more. well our crashes are costing more. Stop doing the stupid shit and we'll pay less.

**SMOKEU** · 9th October 2010, 21:51

Originally Posted by Taz

We're crashing more. well our crashes are costing more. Stop doing the stupid shit and we'll pay less.

Apparently motorbicycles are more dangerous than cages. That's probably why we're getting charged more than cagers.

**Swoop** · 13th October 2010, 11:31

Originally Posted by bsasuper

The popo have number plate cameras, they have been using them for quite a while now.In the small town i live in, they have been using them to iron out any bugs, so be warned, it wont be long till they roll them out mainstream.

Do you have a photo of what they look like in/on the car?? Type of unit being used?

Originally Posted by Subike

Cameras,
$15 for the gizmo that lowers you numer plat flat over 50kph

2 keyrings to attach your plate to the bike will do exactly the same...