Bloody Wellington riders

**ukusa** · 20th October 2010, 08:24

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4251...ase-in-crashes

dragging the rest of the country down with their poor riding ability.

Seriously thoiugh, same old shit reporting with one side of the story. Easy to quote stats without proper in depth analysis & information of causes.
Whilst any number of deaths is too many, is 3 over 5 years really that bad? (how many in police chases?).

**simpy1** · 20th October 2010, 08:29

I saw a guy hooning down Willis St this wet morning on some sort of grey supermoto-style bike...in SHORTS. Hmm.

But seriously...1100 bikes, 304 crashes. That's over 1/4 of the bikes commuting in!

What we all want to know is - how many were caused by the riders?

**Devil** · 20th October 2010, 08:46

Originally Posted by simpy1

But seriously...1100 bikes, 304 crashes. That's over 1/4 of the bikes commuting in!

No, what it said was there were about 1100 bikes commuting in DAILY. But there were 304 crashes in the wellington region over the last 5 years.
Neither of the figures have anything to do with each other.

Piss poor reporting.

**MSTRS:Me** · 20th October 2010, 08:49

Originally Posted by simpy1

What we all want to know is - how many were caused by the riders?

Around 30%, perhaps less.
Intersections are where we tend to get taken out. And that's where car drivers tend to be at their worst, when it comes to not seeing us.

**MSTRS:Me** · 20th October 2010, 08:51

Originally Posted by Devil

No, what it said was there were about 1100 bikes commuting in DAILY. But there were 304 crashes in the wellington region over the last 5 years.
Neither of the figures have anything to do with each other.

Piss poor reporting.

Indeed it is. How many cars do the same trip, coupled with their crashes? There are LOTS of panel beaters in the area....

**simpy1** · 20th October 2010, 08:52

Originally Posted by Devil

Piss poor reporting.

That's true. The number of bikes commuting in does not necessarily follow the same trend as the total number of bikes in the region. Total bike numbers may have increased by far more than the crash rate.

But then again, they could have been lower too. So basically what this article tells us is...nothing.

**MSTRS:Me** · 20th October 2010, 08:59

Originally Posted by simpy1

But then again, they could have been lower too. So basically what this article tells us is...nothing.

True. But what it tells the (usually unthinking non-rider) readers is that bikes are dangerous.
Post a comment on the Stuff site. I did.

**Bald Eagle** · 20th October 2010, 09:01

Usual rubbish from what passes for our media reporters.
Never let the true facts get in the way of a nice headline.

**Scuba_Steve** · 20th October 2010, 09:06

how many are actually those fucking scooters

tho??? (50cc ones of course)

**nudemetalz** · 20th October 2010, 09:27

That tosser on the beaten-up XJ550 who runs the red lights at Willis Street every morning annoys the sh1t out of me too. He doesn't give us a good name.