Police saving our lives again

[Scuba_Steve]

illegal has three l's not four.

(with Hitcher crook, someone has to point this shit out, right?)

How does receiving an infringement notice from a lor enforcement offisher contravene, abrogate or diminish those rights?

(hint: you need to read the back of it)

Not originally that be ye olde english right there.
And it clearly says Innocent until proven guilty, thats pretty self explanatory is it not?. By doing what is on back they have presumed you guilty & it's you proving your innocence NOT how the law is written!

That last one quite clearly states ANY fine handed out before you have been found guilty (in a court of law) is Illegal & Void. Cant get much more obvious than that, right?

[cold comfort]

Looking forward to it- i fully expect as a result of this no one will cross the centre line, run off the road, go through red lights, fail to give way, pull u-turns in the Buller Gorge. Should be a quiet day at work then.

[MaxB]

So AFAIK the demerits are the same for 110 are the same for 104, just the fine is more.
Plus for only 10 extra points you get another 10 kmh on top. Bargain.

It looks like the criuising speed has gone up a bit.

[myvice]

And this is why I work weekends...
And nights...
Fuck I'm tired, only 9 hours to go...
Just be carful out there, to hell with the tickets, the cops and the stupid laws we have to pay lip service to.
Every long weekend we lose one of our own.
How about, now try and stay with me on this caus it’s a bit out there,
find another fucking road!
Why do so many go, to the same roads, at the same time, as everyone else?
You like getting ticketed? Or hit by some caravan towing guy?
I do the Coro ride maybe 2 times a year, during the week.
No cars, one cop, maybe.
But a long weekend? Na, madness…
Heres a tip, Waipapa Rd through to Maraetai Dam.
Takes you from Cambridge to Taupo. You can then do the lake if you want.
Or Kawhia, Kawhia Rd SH31? Nice ride, you can turn off (Harbour Rd, on left heading there) and take the back road to Waitomo if you’re keen.
Two, one day rides that many have never been on.
If you do the same route every weekend, just go to a track.
Be boring there.

[Quasievil]

You dont need the government to mandate decent training, do it yourself

all the government needs to do is get some serious penalties aligned with road "crime"

thats all..............everything else (including training) will follow

[doc]

Opposite weather to last time they got a good result from lowering the speed tolerance. Interesting to see the statistics next tuesday. Just got to wait and see


http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-sto...-dry-and-calm/

[Swoop]

Give them side arms, so that at least a few will shoot themselves.

You don't know how close to the truth that statement is...


Who was the officer that fired a live round in the AK Central police cells (while playing with his pistol) some years back??

[Toaster]

& therein also lies the problem, the whole process of issuing tickets is Illegal aint no 2 ways about it they break NZ law every-time 1 is issued & judges break the law every-time they side wif da cops without reason

Oh really now. And how do you figure that one? Breaching your self proclaimed rights to do whatever you want on roads that are not actually yours are they?

[HenryDorsetCase]

Not originally that be ye olde english right there.
And it clearly says Innocent until proven guilty, thats pretty self explanatory is it not?. By doing what is on back they have presumed you guilty & it's you proving your innocence NOT how the law is written!

That last one quite clearly states ANY fine handed out before you have been found guilty (in a court of law) is Illegal & Void. Cant get much more obvious than that, right?

You're wrong.

Please, please get a ticket and fight it on this basis. Let me know when and where so I can go sit in the public gallery.

[imdying]

Not originally that be ye olde english right there.
And it clearly says Innocent until proven guilty, thats pretty self explanatory is it not?. By doing what is on back they have presumed you guilty & it's you proving your innocence NOT how the law is written!

That last one quite clearly states ANY fine handed out before you have been found guilty (in a court of law) is Illegal & Void. Cant get much more obvious than that, right?

Civil not criminal I'm afraid.

[duckonin]

You dont need the government to mandate decent training, do it yourself

all the government needs to do is get some serious penalties aligned with road "crime"

thats all..............everything else (including training) will follow

Someone has got it right..+5

[Scuba_Steve]

You're wrong.

Please, please get a ticket and fight it on this basis. Let me know when and where so I can go sit in the public gallery.

How? it seems pretty clear written out in black on white. But I'm not saying its win-able the systems WAY to corrupt for that. If you walk into court & a PIG's there your "guilty" before anything is said under our system.

Civil not criminal I'm afraid.

Huh??? you've lost me here?

[Rogue Rider]

the one I like the best, because it is so subversive is to nick the plate off the camera van, then go earn it a few speeding tickets. The cameras are quite high res, so wear your Ronald Reagan facemask, or Ninja scarf.

post pix when you're done.

I like that idea, who's up for it lol......

[FJRider]

Not originally that be ye olde english right there.
And it clearly says Innocent until proven guilty, thats pretty self explanatory is it not?. By doing what is on back they have presumed you guilty & it's you proving your innocence NOT how the law is written!

That last one quite clearly states ANY fine handed out before you have been found guilty (in a court of law) is Illegal & Void. Cant get much more obvious than that, right?

If you want ... you CAN argue an issued Traffic Infringement ticket given to you ... in a court of law. Do not pay the fine ...and court proceedings WILL follow. You can then argue your heart out.

However ...

Payment of the fine is an admission of guilt ...

[Rych]

Yay, more fucking coppers in ya face.
The cowards can't do police work, so become gutless lil tax collectors.
Give them side arms, so that at least a few will shoot themselves.

FYI there are traffic cops and there are general duty cops, the trafic cops only do traffic so there is no wrong in them ticketing those who speed causing a danger to drivers following the road rules.