Police saving our lives again

[MSTRS:Me]

I personally never drove on the roads in the 60s or 70s, but I believe the improvements in cars (& bikes to a lesser degree as they don't have airbags/crumple zones etc) would have to be the biggest impact on the lower road toll over the years. I would feel much safer in one of todays modern cars doing 140 than an old HQ doing 90! Again, it's the idiotic things that others do on the road that's the biggest worry (oh, and those annoying pricks that fuck around at 20k's under the limit).

That is exactly my point. You would have taken more care in an HQ on the roads of the day, than you do in your 5star rated modern car on today's roads. Your crash then killed you. Your crash today tends not to kill you...plus ambo/chopper response times and much improved medical care means survival is enhanced on that side too.
Which means that you can drive whilst asleep (some appear to).
Improved everything has just made driving boring, which is not a good place for a driver to be. Making us drive slower will only make that worse. Ergo - no drop in the road toll will result. In fact, the crash rate is likely to go up...although deaths may not.

[bsasuper]

4k over tolerence will have more of a negative effect.I have just seen a mother pulled over outside a cafe I was having a break at, nice lady with a couple of kids in the van,she spat the dummy at cop, ticket for 4k over on a 70k limit country road with maybe one car every 10mins passing by.He must be happy to have saved an accident.

[steve_t]

4k over tolerence will have more of a negative effect.I have just seen a mother pulled over outside a cafe I was having a break at, nice lady with a couple of kids in the van,she spat the dummy at cop, ticket for 4k over on a 70k limit country road with maybe one car every 10mins passing by.He must be happy to have saved an accident.

Interesting. IIRC, after the last 4k tolerance weekend, the cops were proud to announce not only that accidents were dramatically reduced, but also that they didn't ticket a single person between 105-109 km/h. How do you know the ticket was for 74km/h in a 70 zone?

[Kickaha]

Again, it's the idiotic things that others do on the road that's the biggest worry

Yeah, it's always someone Else's fault

[jellywrestler]

Dont bother me really, I can only get 80km/hr out of my bike cos of the weight the poor thing has to carry

what model harley is that then?

[bsasuper]

Interesting. IIRC, after the last 4k tolerance weekend, the cops were proud to announce not only that accidents were dramatically reduced, but also that they didn't ticket a single person between 105-109 km/h. How do you know the ticket was for 74km/h in a 70 zone?

Maybe it was 4k over the 4k tolerence, either way she gave the popo a few stern words infront of half dozen cafe patrons.

[shrub]

and we're not at the end of Saturday yet - it will be interesting what spin they'll use if the road toll is greater than last year (6) or 2008 (4).

[miloking]

I think the argument for revenue gathering went out the window when they decreased fines a while back

Decreased? ohhh how generous...if you want public to stop saying cops are just money collectors get rid of the fines completely and have only demerit points, very easy.

[miloking]

and we're not at the end of Saturday yet - it will be interesting what spin they'll use if the road toll is greater than last year (6) or 2008 (4).

They will blame it on either alcohol, crossing centre line or expired rego...so neither of those deaths will probably count as road toll...

[carver]

yeah, fuck the cops

I hate cops

if there are any on here, i suggest we ban them now..

who is with me?

[oldrider]

yeah, fuck the cops

I hate cops

if there are any on here, i suggest we ban them now..

who is with me?

Whoever is using Carvers computer please get off it and wait until he comes home and get his permission before posting again!

[Kickaha]

Decreased? ohhh how generous...if you want public to stop saying cops are just money collectors get rid of the fines completely and have only demerit points, very easy.

How many countries operate that system?

[willytheekid]

Sat arvo...PhatGirls all warmed up and ready for the plod into work, Beep Beep and a wave to the Missus the Kid...and the dog.
Taking it easy up the road and onto the highway....Not much traffic?...Hmmmm
Open her up a little, Mmmmmm PhatGirls singing today, the big Vtwin wants to go...should I ?...its a long weekend.....Bugger it!...the FCRs are put to work and the PhatGirl is let loose!
Roaring along now at a "Nice" wee pace ...drop a gear and Launch past 3 cars....still no sign of "them".
Get into town.....still having fun...and yet still no sign of a police car?...not one!
Pulling up to some lights gets the Termi's growling....then there on me!....accellerating up fast to my right....damnit!! Im caught!

The cop car pulls up beside me, the two cops are Grinning wildly.......then one gives me the thumbs up....Bikers....there everywhere

Ride safe everyone.....and have a great weekend

[miloking]

How many countries operate that system?

Why does NZ always need to copy some "other" country...we are not "them" and especialy we are not Victoria so why do we constrantly need to adopt someone elses policies...

[Kickaha]

Why does NZ always need to copy some "other" country...we are not "them" and especialy we are not Vicoria so why do we constrantly need to adopt someone elses policies...

I didn't say we should be copying anybody, how about answering the question instead of dodging it, I am actually interested if you knew of anyone that does and how their accident rates compare