Gas Gas 450, CRF 230l,

**countryguy** · 19th October 2010, 13:44

I've been advised to consider one of the above as a alternative road legal bike to my DR650 for trail riding...any advice??

**NordieBoy** · 19th October 2010, 13:53

For reliability and light weightedness the CRF is a sweet little bike.
It's a road legal, de-tuned, rear disc'd version of the 230F.

**dino3310** · 19th October 2010, 14:04

Originally Posted by NordieBoy

For reliability and light weightedness the CRF is a sweet little bike.
It's a road legal, de-tuned, rear disc'd version of the 230F.

and its a Honda

**Oscar** · 19th October 2010, 15:01

I looked at a Gas Gas 450 and The Publisher warned me that there are two models - the full on enduro one with all the nice bits, and the cheapo nasty one I was looking at...

**Taz** · 19th October 2010, 16:26

Why the hell would they de-tune a 230?

**NordieBoy** · 19th October 2010, 17:15

Originally Posted by Taz

Why the hell would they de-tune a 230?

To tame some of the orsum power...

**countryguy** · 19th October 2010, 19:35

I can sit flat footed on the Gas Gas :-) Yet to sit on a CRF.

Can anyone tell me about the gas gas...good and bad.

**XF650** · 19th October 2010, 19:51

Originally Posted by countryguy

I can sit flat footed on the Gas Gas :-) Yet to sit on a CRF.

Can anyone tell me about the gas gas...good and bad.

Got ride reports on the Pampera 450 - have sent a PM.

**warewolf** · 19th October 2010, 20:09

Originally Posted by Oscar

I looked at a Gas Gas 450 and The Publisher warned me that there are two models - the full on enduro one with all the nice bits, and the cheapo nasty one I was looking at...

Were they the FSE(izit?) vs the Pampera?? There's quite a difference between the EC250 and the Pampera 250, in a similar way.

**Oscar** · 19th October 2010, 20:48

Originally Posted by warewolf

Were they the FSE(izit?) vs the Pampera?? There's quite a difference between the EC250 and the Pampera 250, in a similar way.

Dat's the very one.

**clint640** · 20th October 2010, 11:14

The old Pampera 2 stroke 250 was built from the ground up to be small & light, the new 4T Pampera's both look a bit naff as they appear to just be the enduro bikes with budget parts & cheap short travel suspension to get the seat height down.

I was thinking about the 450 as a possible upgrade from the Super Sherpa for Rosie, but it was off the list pretty quick when I saw it had the same suspension travel as the Sherp.

Cheers
Clint

**Taz** · 20th October 2010, 15:28

Originally Posted by clint640

I was thinking about the 450 as a possible upgrade from the Super Sherpa for Rosie, but it was off the list pretty quick when I saw it had the same suspension travel as the Sherp.

Cheers
Clint

And a tiny tank.

**XF650** · 20th October 2010, 16:36

Originally Posted by Taz

And a tiny tank.

After market tank is (or was) available plus up spec the suspension & the 450 Pampera has still got to be good value, isn't it?

**jezzaNZ** · 20th October 2010, 16:46

IMO the CRF is a chicks bike, is that politically correct?

And the 450 is more like a DRZ 400 but more power. The 450 will require more maintenance but will put a smile on your dial !!!!!!

I think you would be dissapointed with the power of the 230......

My 2 cents worth.