Cyclists on SH16 this morning

[pritch]

Sorry Malcolm ye missed the point. Car drivers, motorcyclist, even Van drivers do not drive three abreast and straight at on comming traffic. Yes there are expections but not enough to rant about.

Those mentioned above have passed a drivers license and paid rego (which includes ACC taxes) to use the road. The cyclist dip-sh_ts haven't & don't, and it shows.

Actually, it seems to me that you've missed his point. Most of the cyclists do pay ACC and they do have drivers licences.

[MSTRS:Me]

Actually, it seems to me that you've missed his point. Most of the cyclists do pay ACC and they do have drivers licences.

They may be perfectly law abiding motorists, paid-up regos an'all....but they don't pay a road user charge on their bikes and too many of them are complete prats, especially when out with a group. They have a 'right' to be on the road, but with that goes 'responsibility'. Which is lacking.
That is the problem.

[breakaway]

They may be perfectly law abiding motorists, paid-up regos an'all....but they don't pay a road user charge on their bikes and too many of them are complete prats, especially when out with a group. They have a 'right' to be on the road, but with that goes 'responsibility'. Which is lacking.
That is the problem.

This, times a MILLION. Those of you defending bicyclists need to wake the fuck up.

[pritch]

too many of them are complete prats, especially when out with a group.

Ummm and this doesn't apply to motorcyclists too?

Some cyclists may be prats, so are a lot of drivers, and so are some motorcyclists.
There's allegedly one born every minute so there's no shortage...

[MSTRS:Me]

Ummm and this doesn't apply to motorcyclists too?

Some cyclists may be prats, so are a lot of drivers, and so are some motorcyclists.
There's allegedly one born every minute so there's no shortage...

Of course. But I'm sure there are other threads where they are being discussed.
This one is for bitching about treadlies...

[Reckless]

This attitude pisses me off. As someone who is paying rego on two bikes and a car (I guess around $1400 a year right?), I think I pay my fair share of ACC levies, and I imagine most other cyclists are paying levies through their motorised vehicles they own too - I don't know why so many people seem to assume someone on a bicycle is a full-time cyclist and pays nothing to be there.

I've found as I've recently gotten back into cycling on the road that if you think car drivers don't notice you on a motorbike, it's a whole new level on a bicycle, and you feel a shittonne more vulnerable out there too.

I think everyone - truckies, cages, bikers and cyclists all need to get out of their idiotic and destructive mindset that they have more right to be on the road than everyone else. It's really quite nice going through life not hating everybody else on the road.

OK so to apply your scenario in reverse because I pay rego on two bikes, a car, acc levies in my business. I get should a refund because I don't ride a pushie?
Which part of the $1400 is going towards cyclists?? I don't ride a cycle I want mine back!!

[Duke girl]

What amazes me about cyclists on our roads is some of the roads they ride on. You can barely get 2 cars passing each other on them and yet cyclist ride 2/3 abreast on them. Why is it that they are allowed to ride the roads that they do when some roads don't even have cycle lanes on them.
Do they not value their own lives?.
Why dont they put signs out WARNING: cars/trucks/motorcyclists and other road users that they are out there and to watch out for them?.
Ride to survive.

[Bald Eagle]

All the blood flow is in the lycra legs, not enough left for proper brain function , situational awareness etc.

[mattian]

This, times a MILLION. Those of you defending bicyclists need to wake the fuck up.

As a minority.... I thought motorcyclists of all people would be the first to stand up and defend the rights of other minority road users.

We could easily take your statement that you've just made, and replace "bicyclists" with "motorcyclists" and, then you would have the exact sentiment that most car drivers have about us ! its exactly the same.

there's just too much rage out there on the roads about us versus them versus those crazy cunts...blah blah blah. Just let people enjoy their chosen sport they way you are entitled to enjoy yours!! I can garuntee you bicyclists aren't hated as much or, considered more of a hazard on the road than motorcyclists by your average Joe Public, who jumps out of their seat everytime a motorcycle edges up past them at a set of traffic lights, or shakes their head in disgust everytime there is another story in the news about a dead motorcyclist.

[MSTRS:Me]

Um...your 'average motorist' does not drive the roads that cyclists like to get out on (much as we do). So those motorists have limited exposure to the bullshit 2/3/4 abreast, all over the road, traffic-blocking speeds of your average lycra-clad bunch of dickheads.

[meteor]

They may be perfectly law abiding motorists, paid-up regos an'all....but they don't pay a road user charge on their bikes and too many of them are complete prats, especially when out with a group. They have a 'right' to be on the road, but with that goes 'responsibility'. Which is lacking.
That is the problem.

Hmmm, so how many motorcyclists pay road user charges for their motorbikes?

Oh shit, some fuckwit will red rep me again now for going off topic.
As a cyclist, I'm really not feeling the love guys....

I saw a scooter rider cut in front of a car today... must have been about half a meter in it... bloody motorcyclists, dangerous bunch of fuckers those!

[kevfromcoro]

They just go fast enough to keep up with the flow...
we can acclerate into a line of traffic quite quickly...
i live on the thames coast.. and they are a right pain in the arse if you come round a corner.. and there are 30 or 40 of them in the way
its a real hazzard....
they get a bit snoty to if ya get to close......
not sure how to resolve this problem.....
but they are a nuisance

[Malcolm]

OK so to apply your scenario in reverse because I pay rego on two bikes, a car, acc levies in my business. I get should a refund because I don't ride a pushie?
Which part of the $1400 is going towards cyclists?? I don't ride a cycle I want mine back!!

Well according to your sig (Kiwibiker Dirt Divison) I assume you probably engage in other somewhat dangerous activities that you don't pay ACC levies for...

Yes, some cyclists are dicks, same as how some motorcyclists are dicks, some car drivers are dicks, and as has been noted already - the reactions from a lot of you are astoundingly similar to what many motorists say about motorcyclists (not the same complaints, but similar sentiments), don't you see that? Guess this is why I don't post on here much, lots of opinionated folk that don't think things through so much.

[ellipsis]

....i used to think a lot once, but life has improved a hell of a lot since i stopped...

...some cyclists seem very lemming like when a group of more than a handful get their lycra workin'....just another bunch of uncontrollable events we pay lots of money to overcome or avoid....winter sorts them out...

[Voltaire]

Bloody Cyclists...I had to slow down for one yesterday as he was taking up most of 'MY' Bus Lane ...and those scooters...they just get in the way...and that walking across the road...whats with that?...