Somebody in a hurry then?

[Motardman]

Go back and read your post. "Bikers hate cops and cops hate bikers." Rubbish! And your sweeping generalisation that cops will target bikers and pick on them relentlessly for "every tiny thing" is also rubbish!

You personally, and maybe a couple of others on here may, hate cops and break the law every time you ride as a one-fingered salute to authority, and heap vitriol on any copper who dares to pull you over for any offense, but you are being a idiot and doing yourself no favours with your ranting.

Why don't you cool off, turn your brain on and go on patrol with the cops or engage in discussions with those who make the laws. You came across, rightly or wrongly, as a selfish, arrogant anarchist with no respect for authority.

Careful, for a second there it sounded like you believe cops are holier than thou and would never flaunt the laws because they can get away with it. It's hard to take a telling off from people dressed up in uniform that are just as guilty if not more so than the rest of us. I have no problem with laws, just some of the wankers enforcing them......small penis syndrome is rife in the traffic 'force'.

[Edbear]

Careful, for a second there it sounded like you believe cops are holier than thou and would never flaunt the laws because they can get away with it. It's hard to take a telling off from people dressed up in uniform that are just as guilty if not more so than the rest of us. I have no problem with laws, just some of the wankers enforcing them......small penis syndrome is rife in the traffic 'force'.

Of course they aren't angels, who is? Most are simply people like you and me, but doing a job most of us wouldn't want to do, dealing with the dregs of society and having to be nice to people like you who may treat them with disrespect and also come to your aid if you crash whether you were obeying the law or not.

I started driving illegally on the road in 1970, legally from 1973 and have been ever since. I've asked the question before, why have I got through 40 years and have no issues, no angst and never had a problem with any cop I've encountered? It's maybe as much about your attitude as about the integrity of the Police. Maybe you bring undue attention to yourself?

[Motardman]

Of course they aren't angels, who is? Most are simply people like you and me, but doing a job most of us wouldn't want to do, dealing with the dregs of society and having to be nice to people like you who may treat them with disrespect and also come to your aid if you crash whether you were obeying the law or not.

I started driving illegally on the road in 1970, legally from 1973 and have been ever since. I've asked the question before, why have I got through 40 years and have no issues, no angst and never had a problem with any cop I've encountered? It's maybe as much about your attitude as about the integrity of the Police. Maybe you bring undue attention to yourself?

Maybe it's the fact you're in NZ, where i come from (the UK) they're not so magnanimous. The last time I had a crash the first thing they did was breathalyze me, didn't even ask if I was ok, once satisfied I wasn't a pisshead they buggered off...lol

In my experience, which is also lengthy , being nice to them really doesn't make much of a difference if you've broken the law, tried both approaches and achieved the same response.....mild patronization with a smattering of high and mighty and a side of officious ponce syndrome.

I tend not to break the law in stupid places (outside schools, in shopping centres, outside copshops) however the attitude of many officers I've encountered even on the most minor offences.....62 kph in a 50 for example in a car that can stop on a 20 cent piece......is frankly unnecessary. You will never change the way some people feel towards the fuzz no matter how much you glorify them as our saviors because unfortunately as they are 'just like us' that also works against them, they also let their feelings effect their judgement.

They may not 'hate bikers' as someone mentioned but there are a truckload of them that really don't like us very much......that also applies to anyone in a car with a big bore exhaust/spoilers etc. I've been pulled over for the heinous offence of driving my car in a straight line late at night obeying the speed limit.....there was another group of uniform wearing enforcers hanging around Europe a few years back with a similar attitude

[Edbear]

Maybe it's the fact you're in NZ, where i come from (the UK) they're not so magnanimous. The last time I had a crash the first thing they did was breathalyze me, didn't even ask if I was ok, once satisfied I wasn't a pisshead they buggered off...lol

In my experience, which is also lengthy , being nice to them really doesn't make much of a difference if you've broken the law, tried both approaches and achieved the same response.....mild patronization with a smattering of high and mighty and a side of officious ponce syndrome.

I tend not to break the law in stupid places (outside schools, in shopping centres, outside copshops) however the attitude of many officers I've encountered even on the most minor offences.....62 kph in a 50 for example in a car that can stop on a 20 cent piece......is frankly unnecessary. You will never change the way some people feel towards the fuzz no matter how much you glorify them as our saviors because unfortunately as they are 'just like us' that also works against them, they also let their feelings effect their judgement.

They may not 'hate bikers' as someone mentioned but there are a truckload of them that really don't like us very much......that also applies to anyone in a car with a big bore exhaust/spoilers etc. I've been pulled over for the heinous offence of driving my car in a straight line late at night obeying the speed limit.....there was another group of uniform wearing enforcers hanging around Europe a few years back with a similar attitude

To address the point underlined. You break the law you take the consequences, it's very simple. If they lecture you, take it, it's their job.

On recent case, a woman stepped in front of a car and was killed. The driver admitted to doing 59km/h. He was not going fast enough to get a ticket and wasn't charged with speeding despite being 9km/h over the limit. However, the SCU did investigate whether his speed was a factor in being unable to stop in time. Had it been, he would have been charged, so it was to his relief that they found he couldn't have avoided her even if he had been at the legal limit.

It's something to think about. Even if you are within any tolerance the cops allow, if you crash, your speed will always be considered. Mine was, even though I was doing about 45km/h when I spun out on oil.

If you are driving a modified vehicle you must expect to be stopped at some point for a vehicle check. You don't say why you were pulled over and what the cop wanted. I assume it was simply to check your modifications.

[Motardman]

To address the point underlined. You break the law you take the consequences, it's very simple. If they lecture you, take it, it's their job.

On recent case, a woman stepped in front of a car and was killed. The driver admitted to doing 59km/h. He was not going fast enough to get a ticket and wasn't charged with speeding despite being 9km/h over the limit. However, the SCU did investigate whether his speed was a factor in being unable to stop in time. Had it been, he would have been charged, so it was to his relief that they found he couldn't have avoided her even if he had been at the legal limit.

It's something to think about. Even if you are within any tolerance the cops allow, if you crash, your speed will always be considered. Mine was, even though I was doing about 45km/h when I spun out on oil.

If you are driving a modified vehicle you must expect to be stopped at some point for a vehicle check. You don't say why you were pulled over and what the cop wanted. I assume it was simply to check your modifications.

Sorry but I have zero sympathy for stupid pedestrians . It's bad enough having to deal with useless drivers let alone numbnuts who step out into the road without looking.

As far as I know 'a lecture' is not part of the procedure. If I were to give a lecture everytime somebody did something stupid or wrong with a computer I'd be a very unpopular IT person.....and funnily enough the ones that do ARE. It's very simple........give the ticket and let the offender be on their way, no patronising and no attitude.....but unfortunately put a human being into a position of power and they invariably become a fuckwit....just look and the government

At no point in the roadcode or the civil rights bill in this country does it say that if you drive a modified vehicle that you should expect to be stopped....it's called harassment. I have MANY friends and colleagues who've suffered interrogations for no apparent reason. The funny thing was when I wound down my window, the officers face was a picture, he was expecting some cap on sideways little prick rather than a bespectacled middle age pommy bastard. I asked why I'd been stopped......routine check......that old chestnut.

Speeding is a sore point in any country, however my opinion, for what its worth, is that speed isn't the major issue....the biggest issue is poor driving skill and the real killer..... lack of awareness. One day it would be nice if all parties involved in accidents we forced to attend and pass advanced driver training at their own cost before being allowed back on the road.....now THAT would get rid of some numpties.

[Katman]

Looks like miloking's found himself a boyfriend.

[Motardman]

Looks like miloking's found himself a boyfriend.

Nah....unless he has large breasts and epic thighs

[Edbear]

Sorry but I have zero sympathy for stupid pedestrians . It's bad enough having to deal with useless drivers let alone numbnuts who step out into the road without looking.

As far as I know 'a lecture' is not part of the procedure. If I were to give a lecture everytime somebody did something stupid or wrong with a computer I'd be a very unpopular IT person.....and funnily enough the ones that do ARE. It's very simple........give the ticket and let the offender be on their way, no patronising and no attitude.....but unfortunately put a human being into a position of power and they invariably become a fuckwit....just look and the government

At no point in the roadcode or the civil rights bill in this country does it say that if you drive a modified vehicle that you should expect to be stopped....it's called harassment. I have MANY friends and colleagues who've suffered interrogations for no apparent reason. The funny thing was when I wound down my window, the officers face was a picture, he was expecting some cap on sideways little prick rather than a bespectacled middle age pommy bastard. I asked why I'd been stopped......routine check......that old chestnut.

Speeding is a sore point in any country, however my opinion, for what its worth, is that speed isn't the major issue....the biggest issue is poor driving skill and the real killer..... lack of awareness. One day it would be nice if all parties involved in accidents we forced to attend and pass advanced driver training at their own cost before being allowed back on the road.....now THAT would get rid of some numpties.

Your last paragraph has merit, but you have obviously lead a privileged life and have the typical blase attitude to the welfare of others of one without a clue what life is really about.

[Motardman]

Your last paragraph has merit, but you have obviously lead a privileged life and have the typical blase attitude to the welfare of others of one without a clue what life is really about.

do you want some sauce for the chip on your shoulder? I thought we were going to have an interesting debate but you've played the 'you don't understand life the universe and everything card', good luck and goodnight

[Edbear]

do you want some sauce for the chip on your shoulder? I thought we were going to have an interesting debate but you've played the 'you don't understand life the universe and everything card', good luck and goodnight

Yeah, sure... I guess I'm too tired to be bothered with trolls at this time of the night.

[Edbear]

do you want some sauce for the chip on your shoulder? I thought we were going to have an interesting debate but you've played the 'you don't understand life the universe and everything card', good luck and goodnight

PS. Thanks for the red rep.

[far queue]

a) We - people on a two wheeled motorised vehicles

Who the hell made you a spokesperson for everyone on said vehicles. You certainly don't speak for me!

[miloking]

Who the hell made you a spokesperson for everyone on said vehicles. You certainly don't speak for me!

No you only are excluded...i forgot to mention that earlier...now stop trolling with your self centered bulshit and GTFO if you have nothing to contribute to the discussion..

[jack_hamma]

What if ?

What if ??

What if ???

What if ????

What we know.... he got away safely

No one was hurt... huh only the police are hurting lol

[miloking]

Go back and read your post. "Bikers hate cops and cops hate bikers." Rubbish! And your sweeping generalisation that cops will target bikers and pick on them relentlessly for "every tiny thing" is also rubbish!

You personally, and maybe a couple of others on here may, hate cops and break the law every time you ride as a one-fingered salute to authority, and heap vitriol on any copper who dares to pull you over for any offense, but you are being a idiot and doing yourself no favours with your ranting.

Why don't you cool off, turn your brain on and go on patrol with the cops or engage in discussions with those who make the laws. You came across, rightly or wrongly, as a selfish, arrogant anarchist with no respect for authority.

a) cops target bikes...always did and always will be, not sure if its due to bad experience or just small dick syndrome but that doesnt change the fact

b) i dont break law as often as you think, but iam yet to find a decent cop...well that is a lie, i've met about two decent cops in my time and i've admited this before...its the ratio of dickheads vs. good cops that annoys me (about 20:1 at best)

c) iam not angry at all..but discussion with cops never leads anywhere because unless you are one of them they will always see you just as a "customer"

But you are quite right, not sure if iam selfish or arrogant but i do hate authority that i cannot respect...