When are you obliged to stop?

**SMOKEU** · 2nd November 2010, 19:00

Originally Posted by Edbear

I took Patrick's comment on that, though. Sure, many do get called off but for him, he got his man later, I wonder how many get clean away and not caught at all.

The vast majority never get caught. If the person being chased is prepared to run a red light at high speed, then the pursuit gets abandoned. Comms then tells the officer (s) in the chase to pull over, turn their lights and sirens off then advise comms where they have pulled over.

**Edbear** · 2nd November 2010, 19:05

Originally Posted by SMOKEU

The vast majority never get caught. If the person being chased is prepared to run a red light at high speed, then the pursuit gets abandoned. Comms then tells the officer (s) in the chase to pull over, turn their lights and sirens off then advise comms where they have pulled over.

I'd just like to know where you get the stats from, since Patrick doesn't know, how do you know? He has 100% success rate even when the chase is abandoned, he's obviously got enough details of the offending vehicle to round the driver up in due course.

Who's got the actual figures? So while even if the majority of chases get abandoned, how do we know how many get rounded up later?

**SMOKEU** · 2nd November 2010, 19:11

Originally Posted by Edbear

I'd just like to know where you get the stats from, since Patrick doesn't know, how do you know? He has 100% success rate even when the chase is abandoned, he's obviously got enough details of the offending vehicle to round the driver up in due course.

Who's got the actual figures? So while even if the majority of chases get abandoned, how do we know how many get rounded up later?

I listen to my scanner every day. In most cases, if the pursuit was abandoned then other officers will do some areas to look for the offenders, but in many cases the pursuit is not allowed to re-commence if the vehicle is seen again. The vehicle is usually stolen as well, so finding the offenders proves very difficult. It's then up to the police to prove who was driving at the time. A delta (dog) unit is usually called in to chases to catch the offenders if they ditch the vehicle.

**Katman** · 2nd November 2010, 19:26

Originally Posted by SMOKEU

I listen to my scanner every day.

What a sad fuck.

**beyond** · 2nd November 2010, 19:36

Originally Posted by Edbear

(Shhh.. Surprised who posted..

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Would suspect that what many consider doing a runner, may be passing a cop at high speed, but before giving the cop a chance to give chase, takes off and gets outta there, hiding somewhere down the ways.

What about where you are actively being chased?

You mean like when all the disco lights come on and you see blue smoke from their tyres as they do a U turn to give chase?

**scracha** · 2nd November 2010, 19:38

Originally Posted by Katman

What a sad fuck.

I concur. .

**scumdog** · 2nd November 2010, 19:42

Originally Posted by SMOKEU

Most proper pursuits still get abandoned.

Not down here sonny.....

**Edbear** · 2nd November 2010, 19:43

Originally Posted by beyond

You mean like when all the disco lights come on and you see blue smoke from their tyres as they do a U turn to give chase?

Perhaps, but if they've got to turn around they are at a disadvantage right away, esp with a bike, as there's no front plate. All they can hope there, is that the rider stops as required. But we've seen on the Teev that bikes can be caught and a number tend to crash trying. There was that famous one out West a year or two back?

**Oakie** · 2nd November 2010, 19:49

I considered the pros and cons of it a few years ago and decided that if I ever saw the red/blues behind me I'll just pull over and take my lumps. Decision made back then in a calm and rational state of mind meant I wouldn't make a stupid decision at some time in the future. Like on Friday night in Wanaka for example. Doing 100 in an 80 zone and whizzing up behind the car in front of me when I passed a cop going the other way. Red/blues come on and a big U turn ... bugger! Pulled over like I promised myself I would then watched the Xmas lights come up, pull alongside then proceed to chase the car that was in front of me. Forgot the old rule ... 'First in line, pays the fine'. Would have been doubley stupid to run huh! Best of all ... the car in front of me was being driven by Mrs Oakie. Priceless!

**Edbear** · 2nd November 2010, 20:30

Originally Posted by Oakie

I considered the pros and cons of it a few years ago and decided that if I ever saw the red/blues behind me I'll just pull over and take my lumps. Decision made back then in a calm and rational state of mind meant I wouldn't make a stupid decision at some time in the future. Like on Friday night in Wanaka for example. Doing 100 in an 80 zone and whizzing up behind the car in front of me when I passed a cop going the other way. Red/blues come on and a big U turn ... bugger! Pulled over like I promised myself I would then watched the Xmas lights come up, pull alongside then proceed to chase the car that was in front of me. Forgot the old rule ... 'First in line, pays the fine'. Would have been doubley stupid to run huh! Best of all ... the car in front of me was being driven by Mrs Oakie. Priceless!

**SMOKEU** · 2nd November 2010, 20:46

Originally Posted by Katman

What a sad fuck.

That fact that you're so willing to abuse me at almost every given opportunity shows your clear lack of maturity. It's very similar to what 10 year old kids do to eachother at school. I don't start abusing you, so just stop being a dickhead and give it a rest.

Originally Posted by scumdog

Not down here sonny.....

Maybe comms down there are more relaxed about pursuit policys than up here.

**marty** · 2nd November 2010, 22:08

Originally Posted by Oakie

I considered the pros and cons of it a few years ago and decided that if I ever saw the red/blues behind me I'll just pull over and take my lumps. Decision made back then in a calm and rational state of mind meant I wouldn't make a stupid decision at some time in the future. Like on Friday night in Wanaka for example. Doing 100 in an 80 zone and whizzing up behind the car in front of me when I passed a cop going the other way. Red/blues come on and a big U turn ... bugger! Pulled over like I promised myself I would then watched the Xmas lights come up, pull alongside then proceed to chase the car that was in front of me. Forgot the old rule ... 'First in line, pays the fine'. Would have been doubley stupid to run huh! Best of all ... the car in front of me was being driven by Mrs Oakie. Priceless!

Many years ago i was attempting to catch up with a 140km/h speeder on sh29. I came upon a motorcycle which, when I pulled level with (overtaking) he took off - obviously thought I was after him.

70km later he bailed into a ditch and a paddock after running a stop sign at about 100km/h at a T-junction in the country. I was about 200m behind him at the time.

What a waste of a Ducati. His own one too.

He's still in a wheelchair. I still have no idea why he ran, I suspect he was moving some meth or other class A drug.

Moral of the story - pull over - it just may not be all about you.

**Big Dave** · 2nd November 2010, 23:58

Lottery: tax on people who are bad at maths.

You reckon upping the ante to a criminal record for a traffic infringement is a good investment?

Hope you never want a career move that involves a serious background check.

I sure don't don't need that shit - particularly when I factor in the 'pull over an be polite routine' has got me a caution almost as often as a booking.

I used to ride with a guy who ran when the christmas tree lit up out at Matta Matta one day. It was the last time he rode for about 5 years. Had to sell the bike to pay the fines.

Fool got us out of an $80 ticket though.

**miloking** · 3rd November 2010, 05:59

Originally Posted by Big Dave

I used to ride with a guy who ran when the christmas tree lit up out at Matta Matta one day. It was the last time he rode for about 5 years. Had to sell the bike to pay the fines.

Fool got us out of an $80 ticket though.

Must have been pretty cheap bike then because those fines for running are not that big... i guess nobody told him he can repay the fines on weekly basis...