Thursday misadventure. How to win a week in hospital.

**Smifffy** · 5th November 2010, 18:51

Originally Posted by Katman

Perhaps those following behind need to reassess their interpretation of the situation.

Perhaps, but those involved in such situations should definitely stick around until things get sorted out.

I rail at the injustice of it all.

**Katman** · 5th November 2010, 18:51

Originally Posted by baptist

lets hope she understands not to do it again

Some of you need a serious dose of wake the fuck up.

It happens - learn to read the situation and take appropriate action.

You can blame everyone else all you like - after all, that's what the public have become used to hearing from motorcyclists.

**NinjaNanna** · 5th November 2010, 18:53

Originally Posted by Katman

Perhaps those following behind need to reassess their interpretation of the situation.

I don't ever recall seeing an online post from Terbang that would make me think he's some testosterone fuelled idiot with a death wish on a bike. Why do you persist in tarring every biker with the same brush.

Accidents happen and yes maybe this one was avoidable but what are you going to do? Stop behind every car that pulls over to the left just to see what they're going to do.

Sometimes our spidey sense isn't 100% ... heaven forbid the day that your's fails you or you drop that crystal ball from your mighty high pedastal that you sit on.

**Katman** · 5th November 2010, 18:56

Originally Posted by NinjaNanna

I don't ever recall seeing an online post from Terbang that would make me think he's some testosterone fuelled idiot with a death wish on a bike.

Have I ever suggested he is?

"It wasn't my fault" is such an empty statement.

**98tls** · 5th November 2010, 19:06

Getting interesting here really,if you put yourself in the same suituation what would you do?personally i wouldnt trust any car i come across in the middle of nowhere thats just pulled over to the left and still moving from previous bad experiences

and if i was to pass i would make sure there was no oncoming and take to the righthand lane to allow for any unexpected. (said bad experience)Anyways as i said earlier hope you guys heal fast and all is well.

**terbang** · 5th November 2010, 19:09

Originally Posted by Katman

Perhaps those following behind need to reassess their interpretation of the situation.

Well yes you have a point and that was done, I followed at quite a distance at speeds down to 50K's and had ample previous opportunity to overtake as I was suspicious of her erratic driving. And my mistake was to fall for the lure that she was stopping to the left and attempt to overtake on an open road with around 800m vis available. Witness account is that she swung violently right as we were fairly well abeam.

No Katman, you won't draw me into one of your holier than thou all riders are at fault other than katman discussions as I certainly do bear and admit some responsibility in this accident. I am also waiting for the police assessment on this accident ad if any punishment comes my way, then so be it.

**Edbear** · 5th November 2010, 19:10

Originally Posted by Katman

Have I ever suggested he is?

"It wasn't my fault" is such an empty statement.

I think you're being a bit harsh, mate. Terbang was riding particularly carefully due to having his daughter on pillion and her BF following on a 250. He's neither young nor inexperienced. I take him at his word. Not everyone can be suspicious all the time as to what a driver may be about to do. If she failed to indicate or check her mirrors, which sounds likely, and merely slowed and pulled left, it would be natural to overtake. Even so, he overtook at only 70km/h out of consideration for his pillion and the following BF who was on a small bike.

Had he gassed it he may have avoided the accident but at the same time drawn the BF into it and it would have been the BF under the SUV. Either way, it looks like the Asian lady's fault.

Now I've been riding bikes for 40 years and never had an accident on one, but "There but for the ..." I wouldn't be so critical if I were you.

**Dogboy900** · 5th November 2010, 19:11

Sorry to hear of your accident, glad you both made it through alive.
Rehab can be a long road I hope yours and your daughters go well.

I used to always take my Ventura rack off if I was not carrying my bags, but lately I have gotten lazy and leave it on al the time... Might have to start taking it off again.

Take care

**terbang** · 5th November 2010, 19:11

Originally Posted by 98tls

and if i was to pass i would make sure there was no oncoming and take to the righthand lane to allow for any unexpected. (said bad experience)Anyways as i said earlier hope you guys heal fast and all is well.

Exactly what I did the impact occurred on the opposite oncoming lane.

**mattian** · 5th November 2010, 19:15

Originally Posted by Katman

Some of you need a serious dose of wake the fuck up.

It happens - learn to read the situation and take appropriate action.

You can blame everyone else all you like - after all, that's what the public have become used to hearing from motorcyclists.

Her driving leading up to this incident should have been an indication that more stupidity was to come, However, even passing this vehicle with extreme caution may not have prevented contact between car and bike. Other than stopping in the middle of the road..... what action would you have taken?

**98tls** · 5th November 2010, 19:17

Originally Posted by terbang

Exactly what I did the impact occurred on the opposite oncoming lane.

Apoligies then i didnt realise that.Nothing else you could have done.You have every right to be f#ucked off with the only bright side being your both still here eh.

**Edbear** · 5th November 2010, 19:19

Originally Posted by terbang

Well yes you have a point and that was done, I followed at quite a distance at speeds down to 50K's and had ample previous opportunity to overtake as I was suspicious of her erratic driving. And my mistake was to fall for the lure that she was stopping to the left and attempt to overtake on an open road with around 800m vis available. Witness account is that she swung violently left as we were fairly well abeam.

No Katman, you won't draw me into one of your holier than thou all riders are at fault other than katman discussions as I certainly do bear and admit some responsibility in this accident. I am also waiting for the police assessment on this accident ad if any punishment comes my way, then so be it.

As a father, you probably feel absolutely @*&%*@! We can't aways think of everything all the time and if you had your mind on both your own overtaking maneuver and also your following biker, it would only take a split second to miss her intitial swerve.