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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post
    You either need glasses, reading comprehension schooling or memory training. Regardless, you're not winning yourself any credibility here.
    I have no problem with my comprehension skills. The car turned left out of the no right turn street and then turned right into the kindergarten.

    And by the way folks, straight from the horse's mouth, it appears this wasn't a case of evasive action but rather an overtaking manoeuvre gone bad.

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    Jesus, another biker down thread turned into the usual pissing match with Katman.

    Anyway, bugger that you've had an off, and hopefully you and the bike will recover OK.

    In response to the first post (the one that described the circumstances of the accident, remember that one) there may have been something you could have done, or there may not, and there's probably only about 2 seconds between the two. You're not the first person to be caught out by this and sadly you won't be the last, and it may have been avoidable. I work on the theory of self preservation, and assume that everybody else on the road is a complete moron, which reasonably often turns out to be the case. So I'll try and add something useful to the conversation.

    Firstly if you see a car coming up to an intersection, assume they haven't seen you and get everything ready for a quick stop if you need to, I find these days my hand instinctively goes to the brake when I see something that's likely to cross my intended path. Secondly never assume that a car pulling to the left is pulling over or letting you past, they're probably just reading a letterbox number or texting someone and more than likely they'll pull back out just as you get beside them.

    Finally, I doubt you'll find anything in your insurance policy about rego, so you should think about putting a claim in because they're in a much better position than you to argue with another insurance company. And as previously posted, you might want to think about paying your rego to give back some of the several thousand dollars you just cost ACC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudaBaker View Post


    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    I have no problem with my comprehension skills. The car turned left out of the no right turn street and then turned right into the kindergarten.

    And by the way folks, straight from the horse's mouth, it appears this wasn't a case of evasive action but rather an overtaking manoeuvre gone bad.
    Uhuh...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    I have no problem with my comprehension skills. The car turned left out of the no right turn street and then turned right into the kindergarten.

    And by the way folks, straight from the horse's mouth, it appears this wasn't a case of evasive action but rather an overtaking manoeuvre gone bad.
    No egg on my face and thanks for the red. You've finally shot yourself in the head after shooting yourself in the foot often enough. I'll be happy to just ignore your juvenile posts from now on...
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    Okay, so to reiterate the facts, now that my head is clear again, read on...

    MAP: http://maps.google.co.nz/maps?f=q&so...,0.004136&z=18

    I pull out of my driveway at approximately point "A" (I'm not about to broadcast my exact address to the world, for security reasons...) heading east (towards Glenfield Road). Accelerating normally, in a 50kph zone (with a cold bike as well, I might add!) at Eliott Ave I see the car pulling out in front of me (to travel in the same direction as me), so my natural evasive action was to pull to the right hand side of the road to go around him. I was NOT hooning or racing, I just saw that the other side of the road was clear of traffic, so I figured it would be safe to do so. Unfortunately, he pretty much immediately turned right to enter the driveway at number 22 Manuka Road, colliding with me. I spill off the bike, which slides almost into the driveway he was turning into. (I've seen the scars on the road today...)

    Does that explain things for everyone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phreak View Post
    Okay, so to reiterate the facts, now that my head is clear again, read on...

    MAP: http://maps.google.co.nz/maps?f=q&so...,0.004136&z=18

    I pull out of my driveway at approximately point "A" (I'm not about to broadcast my exact address to the world, for security reasons...) heading east (towards Glenfield Road). Accelerating normally, in a 50kph zone (with a cold bike as well, I might add!) at Eliott Ave I see the car pulling out in front of me (to travel in the same direction as me), so my natural evasive action was to pull to the right hand side of the road to go around him. I was NOT hooning or racing, I just saw that the other side of the road was clear of traffic, so I figured it would be safe to do so. Unfortunately, he pretty much immediately turned right to enter the driveway at number 22 Manuka Road, colliding with me. I spill off the bike, which slides almost into the driveway he was turning into. (I've seen the scars on the road today...)

    Does that explain things for everyone?
    Well it does for those of us who can read and understand simple English, not sure about everyone...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phreak View Post
    Does that explain things for everyone?
    Sort of - except for the bit where you decided to overtake him instead of electing to slow down a bit and sit behind him.

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    In truth, I dunno why I didn't hit the brakes. My first reaction when he pulled out in front of me was to give him room. The other side of the road was clear for as far as I could see (I specifically remember looking to make sure it was) so I did what I did.

    In hindsight, it's easy to say I should have braked, but I didn't exactly have time to sit there and decide "Should I brake...? Or should I just go around him? Nah, there isn't any traffic coming, so I'll avoid possibly losing control of my bike by locking up the back tyre, or pulling a really cool looking stoppie (which I've never done before, by the way), and just move to the right so I can avoid the guy..."

    It was more like "Fuck, car, nothing oncoming, moving over!"

    You get the point?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phreak View Post
    You get the point?
    Not really. It just sounds like you're getting desperate now.

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    Seriously? Okay, fine. You weren't there. So fuck off.

    Edit: Like I'm not upset enough already without you being all fucking 'He-Man' and you coulda done so much better... (Sorry Moderators for the language...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phreak View Post
    Seriously? Okay, fine. You weren't there. So fuck off.
    As has been said then - I hope you paid the bill for the x-rays out of your own pocket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phreak View Post
    Okay, so to reiterate the facts, now that my head is clear again, read on...

    MAP: http://maps.google.co.nz/maps?f=q&so...,0.004136&z=18

    I pull out of my driveway at approximately point "A" (I'm not about to broadcast my exact address to the world, for security reasons...) heading east (towards Glenfield Road). Accelerating normally, in a 50kph zone (with a cold bike as well, I might add!) at Eliott Ave I see the car pulling out in front of me (to travel in the same direction as me), so my natural evasive action was to pull to the right hand side of the road to go around him. I was NOT hooning or racing, I just saw that the other side of the road was clear of traffic, so I figured it would be safe to do so. Unfortunately, he pretty much immediately turned right to enter the driveway at number 22 Manuka Road, colliding with me. I spill off the bike, which slides almost into the driveway he was turning into. (I've seen the scars on the road today...)

    Does that explain things for everyone?
    Nah, Id still be keen to know how far away from the car, or the intersection at elliot street you were?

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    In all honesty, I couldn't exactly tell you. I'm pretty sure I had gone through the pedestrian crossing when I saw the car pulling out of Eliott Ave, but couldn't be 100% sure. It all happened so quick. Sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post
    Well it does for those of us who can read and understand simple English, not sure about everyone...
    I'm still confused as to where it says the driver turned right at a no right-turn sign, which is what Rych was complaining about (thus the reply which brought on yours).

    I honestly can't see it.. Your English must be far superior to mine.




    To the OP:

    It's pretty scary how vulnerable you can be on a bike when the people movers come straight at you eh. Be careful out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    And by the way folks, straight from the horse's mouth, it appears this wasn't a case of evasive action but rather an overtaking manoeuvre gone bad.
    The way I read it the "overtaking manoeuvre" was the evasive action.
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