Police crackdown

[swbarnett]

The enforcement conundrum.

Occasionally we video the work we are doing, mainly for quality control.

So we get to watch someone commit an offence, on video, then hear them deny it, honestly believing that they haven't done it.

It's a psychological defence mechanism.

Are you implying that the police NEVER get it wrong? Are they not human like the rest of us? Or has all the humanity been beaten out of them?

[MSTRS:Me]

Are you implying that the police NEVER get it wrong? Are they not human like the rest of us? Or has all the humanity been beaten out of them?

You know how they all throw their hats in the air at passing out?
Well - those hats contain their frontal lobes. I understand there is an operation performed to re-install said lobes. But only after they leave or retire. The proof of this is in talking to a current cop and an ex-cop...the song sheet is quite different.

[mashman]

You know how they all throw their hats in the air at passing out?
Well - those hats contain their frontal lobes. I understand there is an operation performed to re-install said lobes. But only after they leave or retire. The proof of this is in talking to a current cop and an ex-cop...the song sheet is quite different.

The replacement hat

[rastuscat]

The problem with a quota (should one exist, tee hee) is that it encourages the person so tasked to do the minimum he/she has to to meet the quota. It is so easy to write tickets that it would encourage Popos to sit on a street corner and ticket every person who turned without indicating, or to troll parking buildings for vehicle registration tickets. Basically, it's easier to fill a quota with low value tickets than actual trauma promoting tickets. That's the problem.

The revenue gathering argument is a nonsense, as I've detailed here lots before. I don't get the cash, my boss doesn't, his boss doesn't, hell, even the Commissioner doesn't. The cash (if paid) goes to the consolidated fund.

On a high level, I expect there is someone in treasury rubbing their hands together when thinking fine revenue, but for the Popos, the money means nothing. Now, If they dropped my salary to a retainer and paid me 10% of the fine revenue, now THAT would be a quota, and wow, wouldn't I love writing tickets.

Believe it or not, tickets are written by the average cop in order to change driver behaviour. The motivations may be different further up the gubbermint chain, but at the roadside level, the revenue means nix.

Trouble is, the revenue collecting and quota diatribe is directed at the base level person who writes the tickets, who as mentioned has no interest in whether you pay the fine or not.

I can't even spend a single cent of the fine revenue on donuts. Nuts.

[miloking]

I can't even spend a single cent of the fine revenue on donuts. Nuts.

Not a SINGLE CENT??? What is the world coming to!!!

[MSTRS:Me]

The revenue gathering argument is a nonsense...

On a high level, I expect there is someone in treasury rubbing their hands together when thinking fine revenue...

So which is it? Can't have a buck each way, young man.

Believe it or not, tickets are written by the average cop in order to change driver behaviour.

I firmly believe that (most of) those that go into traffic, do so because they'd like to make a difference. Commendable.
I'm also sure that most of you don't like writing tickets, and don't REALLY believe that is the best way to achieve driver behaviour improvements.
But your bosses hand you the song sheet they want sung from, eh?
Ex-cops are starting to speak out, so don't try to flannel us anymore...

[Scuba_Steve]

So which is it? Can't have a buck each way, young man.

I think what he meant to say is "The revenue gathering argument is all true" just not at the low level, its all from the Govt down.

[Patrick]

Here: A guy is stopped by the police and the constable comes up to his window and says: "Sir, I was following you for 10 Km's and you always indicated at least 3 seconds before you turned, you never went over the speed limit, you slowed down to 40K when passing that school, and all the time you kept the distance to the car in front of you. That will get you a ticket: Here, your free ticket to the All Blacks v Englad in two weeks."....

Then the prick will be on to KB in a flash, whinging about how he was "harrassed" by the pigs for "doin nuthin wrong..."???

[MSTRS:Me]

Then the prick will be on to KB in a flash, whinging about how he was "harrassed" by the pigs for "doin nuthin wrong..."???

Of course. Bloody cheapskates fobbing him off with a pair of tickets to the poxy rugby. Could have been all expenses for 2 to a WSbk round...

[Gremlin]

I can't even spend a single cent of the fine revenue on donuts. Nuts.

Thats why you hand your license over with the queen wrapped around it... (or a dunkin voucher)

[scumdog]

Ex-cops are starting to speak out, so don't try to flannel us anymore...

Disgruntled too, just about every one of them...

So do any of them carry a grudge/have a chip on their shoulder ? - heavens no!

(Stop trolling - somebody might think you mean what you say...)

[scumdog]

I think what he meant to say is "The revenue gathering argument is all true" just not at the low level, its all from the Govt down.

So if a cop managed to achieve his 'quota' by writing out 100% of his tickets as compliance ones would he be in trouble?
No.

So where would the revenue be gathered in that case?

(Just a note in case people thought 'revenue gathering' was the principal aim for ticket-writers)

[ynot slow]

Haven't read all threads here,but the take is the retired officer was from the old MOT,and the stupid woman argued there was no POLICE quota,so reading between the lines she didn't deny there was no quota for highway patrol.

And I'll say it till the cows come home if you get caught speeding don't whinge,how often have you sped and not caught,in my case heaps(read mostly travel 110-120km),so if I'm caught just cop it sweet,and contribute my invoice to the sales(not quota)figures for the month.

[MSTRS:Me]

Disgruntled too, just about every one of them...

I wonder why.

(Stop trolling - somebody might think you mean what you say...)

I suppose I'll have to be careful. Wouldn't want to go over quota...oops, sorry, performance indicator.

[tri boy]

Paula Rose, (i think thats what that stupid bints name), said there is no qouta, but she expects the officers to work.??????
WTF does that mean?

If they are not writing out a shit load of tickets, they are not working?

So, if the local officers are doing school education for kiddies about road sence, they are not working?

She has to be one of the poorest spokespeople for the rozza's.

Who does she think she is kidding.

Big praise for the career officer who spoke up. He may have an axe to grind, but if there wasn't filthy laundry in the force, then why would such cops step forward?

Flip it over, cops often put up the argument, "if you have nothing to hide, then why not co-operate".

Well, if he has nothing to say that is truthful, why would a career cop speak up?