Police crackdown

[Brian d marge]

Not being hypocritical here , if I was stopped for educational purposes , I would have no problem ,
ie , sorry just want to have a chat about biking and safety , do you have a min

and if there was a cup of coffee involve ,,great

but if its a sneaky way to check for something to fine you with , say a lapsed rego ,,for which I may or may not be paying due to ACC beyond my control

( why DO we pay rego anyway ?)



then is a police state and books should be stacked as to prevent the spread of scurrilous lies against Herr Key ( what a nice man he is , such a pleasant smile )

Stephen

[Genie]

Don't have the stats to hand (do they even exist?) but I know of at least 5 occasions were a u-turning cop caused either injury or general mayhem in trying to avoid. Buller Gorge counts as 1 event in this case, even though 2 were severely injured...

Have to say, police are in fact human and they do make mistakes. Had a rather nasty one not along ago here in Nelly town which resulted in the death of a child...sad to say these things do happen and will continue to do so, but, if we, public and police have more awareness perhaps the occurance of these types of accidents maybe diminish. (but that's in my dream land)

[davereid]

The facts are irrelevant.. police think motorcyclists need targeting and they will target them.

The law gives them the power to stop you for any reason, and you just have to put up with it.

I will be watching with interest, as of course I remain the careful, accident free high annual mileage rider of a warranted but unregistered motorcycle.

Maybe after all these years I get to meet red-mermaid as he writes me a ticket for no rego !

[Mom]

Did you guys see that new item last night regarding the use of knives in NZ? The family of a guy stabbed being a good samaratin are calling for changes to the police powers of search. They want the wording of the law on searching people changed so the police dont need any suspicion or evidence that someone is carrying a knife or what have you, they can simply stop you and search you. Appalling!

I see this as something similar, if I am not doing anything wrong, why should I be stopped going about my lawful business to have a revenue gathering excercise thinly disguised as a "safety talk"?

Oh and I expect I would fail the attitude test if I was stopped, my bike is fully legal, I am fully licenced and I dont as a rule exceed the speed limit. I dont drink and drive either.

[MSTRS:Me]

Roadside chats = bullshit. If cops were really interested in motorcycle safety, they'd be pushing for this sort of thing. I'll be there doing my bit, using my experience to help other riders, so don't tell me I'm a narrow-minded, keyboard hero.

‘Motorcyclist Open Day’

‘Whether you’re new to motorcycling or have been riding for years, there is bound to be something for everyone at a RoadSafe HB Motorcyclist Open Day to be staged at the Royshill Go-Kart track on Sunday the 21st November starting at 9.30 am.,” said Steve Bennett, President of the Pacific Motorcycle Club.

A group of passionate motorcyclists from the HB Ulysses, Honda Riders of NZ and the Pacific Motorcycle Clubs have banded together with the NZ Police, ACC, RoadSafe HB, and a local motorcycle retailer to bring a range of safety awareness initiatives to the riders of Hawke’s Bay.

“This is hoped to be the first of many Motorcyclist Open Days to be staged at the Royshill Raceway,” said Graeme Walker from HB Ulysses. “This free event is all about helping motorcyclists improve their riding skills and stay safe on HB roads.” he said.

“NZTA records show there are over 2,000 motorcycles registered in the area from Wairoa to Central Hawke’s Bay and there are approximately two fatal, 19 serious and over 30 minor motorcycle accidents in our area every year. While many of these accidents are not the fault of the motorcycle rider alone, we hope to teach a few basic skills that will help keep riders safe on our roads,” he said.

The Open Day is particularly aimed at the riders in 45 to 60 year age group, as they have some of the worst accident rates. Many of these are the Born Again Bikers who learnt to ride 20 or 30 years ago and have recently got back into motorcycling. All rider age groups are guaranteed to learn something as the sessions will cover such skills as emergency braking and low speed manoeuvring while members of the Pacific MC Racing Club will be running some fun ‘on-track’ sessions to demonstrate various cornering techniques, throttle control and factors that influence traction and stability.

There will also be very experienced road riders available to answer questions and provide individual rider assessments and advice.

And just in case your precious bike needs a bit of work before your next WoF, a group of skilled motorcycle mechanics led by the lads at Ericksen Honda will be available all day to give your bike the ‘once over’ and recommend anything that needs a bit of attention before you hit the road this summer.

If that’s not enough to keep you occupied there will be a FREE sausage sizzle, hot coffee and lots of valuable Spot Prizes to give away.

“There are always those who tell you they’ve been riding for years and don’t need to learn anything new, so we’d particularly like to see them as they can pass on a few of their survival tips to the rest of us,” said Graeme.

For more information on the Open Day, feel free to contact:
Linda Anderson: RoadSafe HB on 027 474 7294

[red mermaid]

Ok, so you say you're not but it very clearly uses the words "NZ Police" in the 2nd paragraph as one of the groups involved in this day.

Roadside chats = bullshit. If cops were really interested in motorcycle safety, they'd be pushing for this sort of thing. I'll be there doing my bit, using my experience to help other riders, so don't tell me I'm a narrow-minded, keyboard hero.

[MSTRS:Me]

They were invited to attend, as far as I know. It did not start with them.
A day like this is way better than some cuntstable wagging his finger on the side of the road

[bogan]

Ok, so you say you're not but it very clearly uses the words "NZ Police" in the 2nd paragraph as one of the groups involved in this day.

heres a thought, in the interests of safety, why don't you get a hold of one of the flyers and post it up here, so we can see whether the safety message is good, or bollocks. I mean roadside checkpoints have what, couple of hundred bikes go through them with heaps of police man hours, kb, thousands of bikers and only a single click.

[mashman]

Ok, so you say you're not but it very clearly uses the words "NZ Police" in the 2nd paragraph as one of the groups involved in this day.

Why, with 78% of the ACTUAL injuries under their belts, are you not stopping and leafletting cars?

heres a thought, in the interests of safety, why don't you get a hold of one of the flyers and post it up here, so we can see whether the safety message is good, or bollocks. I mean roadside checkpoints have what, couple of hundred bikes go through them with heaps of police man hours, kb, thousands of bikers and only a single click.

That sounds too sensible. Stop it right now.

[ducatilover]

Why, with 78% of the ACTUAL injuries under their belts, are you not stopping and leafletting cars?

Your turn to stop, that's too sensible. Target the MINORITY not the problem you foooooool

[mashman]

Your turn to stop, that's too sensible. Target the MINORITY not the problem you foooooool

sorry what was i thinking... Can i still have cake?

[scumdog]

I don't appreciate a cop with no experience of bikes telling me what to do, when I clock up 1000km+ in a single ride, have ridden all night on plenty of occasions, handled freezing temperatures and my gear costs thousands of dollars (and some specially imported as its not widely available here).

Now of course, not everyone is the same... but blanket pulling everyone and treating everyone the same is hardly going to impress me.

(a) Are you expecting the cop that stops you to have his motrocycling C.V with him?

(b) Are you thinking you'll be getting pulled over just to be impressed?

(c) Are you trolling?

[ducatilover]

sorry what was i thinking... Can i still have cake?

Yes, of course.

[Hawk]

as stated in another thread

how many bikes does it take to block a state high way at a police road block

doing anything this weekend

[scumdog]

I see this as something similar, if I am not doing anything wrong, why should I be stopped going about my lawful business to have a revenue gathering excercise thinly disguised as a "safety talk"?, my bike is fully legal, I am fully licenced and I dont as a rule exceed the speed limit. I dont drink and drive either.

Ya gonna be wearing a big-arsed sandwich-board sign outlining the above so the cops don't have toactually stop you to find out all that??