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    Reading the LAMS it is interesting to see a Suzuki SV650 (SU). Suzuki bought out a low volume detuned SV650 to get on the list. Good move that.
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    I would imagine Hyosung would bring their detuned 650R over here as well as that was the top selling learner legal bike in aus.

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    Didn't read the NZ law - but saw on the linked Aussie LAMS list that any bike built before 1960 and less than 660cc are approved?

    Did this exclusion make it into the NZ law?

    I'm having dreams of race tuning a 1960s bike
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    From page 7...

    Clause 16(1)(d) is amended by revoking subparagraph (ii) and
    substituting the following subparagraph:
    “(ii) must not—
    “(A) ride between the hours of 10 pm and 5 am;
    or
    “(B) ride a prohibited motorcycle; or
    “(C) carry another person on the moped or
    motorcycle or in a sidecar attached to the
    moped or motorcycle.”
    Appears the requirement to display an L plate is going as well?
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeremysprite View Post
    Didn't read the NZ law - but saw on the linked Aussie LAMS list that any bike built before 1960 and less than 660cc are approved?

    Did this exclusion make it into the NZ law?

    I'm having dreams of race tuning a 1960s bike
    Get your full licence sorted then you can get any bike you want!

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    Proposal 9 will be a welcome relief.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sil3ntwar View Post
    How long do these drafts take to actually go into law?
    Look at the speed of a glacier travelling at full throttle for reference.
    Unless it's a politician's payrise, then it will be faster than the speed of light.



    So. A moped licence prohibits carrying a passenger.
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    Kinda confused on the difference between a 6L & a 6M (apart from the obvious: can only ride a moped on a 6M). Seems like it will be the same tests for both (BHS, theory). Do the hours you're allowed to ride not apply to a 6M? Otherwise I don't see why you'd go for a 6M over a 6L, even if you just rode mopeds. Cost difference maybe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    Look at the speed of a glacier travelling at full throttle for reference.
    Unless it's a politician's payrise, then it will be faster than the speed of light.



    So. A moped licence prohibits carrying a passenger.
    Looks like some parts will be acted upon July next year but some of the motorcycle licence changes may take a year longer.

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    Yet again it appears motorcyclists are being given discriminatory treatment based on knee jerk reactions to 'perceived' issues.

    The real problem is that the whole system is compliance based and focused on 'passing a test'.

    It should be safety focused and based on acqusition of skills for all road users, regardless of motive power or number of wheels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    From page 7...
    Clause 16(1)(d) is amended by revoking subparagraph (ii) and
    substituting the following subparagraph:
    “(ii) must not—
    “(A) ride between the hours of 10 pm and 5 am;
    or
    “(B) ride a prohibited motorcycle; or
    “(C) carry another person on the moped or
    motorcycle or in a sidecar attached to the
    moped or motorcycle.”

    Appears the requirement to display an L plate is going as well?
    Nah, part (i) refers to the L plate...
    in the case of a Class 6L licence, where the holder is riding a motorcycle, the holder—

    *

    (i) must display on the vehicle an "“L”" plate as specified in clause 66; and

    *

    (ii) must not—
    o

    (A) drive between the hours of 10 pm and 5 am; or
    o

    (B) drive at a speed exceeding 70 km/h, unless taking the restricted licence test for a Class 6R licence under clause 48(5); or
    o

    (C) drive a motorcycle that has a total piston displacement exceeding 250 cm3; or
    o

    (D) carry another person on the motorcycle or in a sidecar attached to the motorcycle.

    http://www.legislation.govt.nz/regul...&p=1#DLM281347

    Under Clause 16


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bald Eagle View Post
    It should be ... based on acqusition of skills for all road users, regardless of motive power or number of wheels.
    That is the crux of the matter. Every gubbinment fails to see this simple fact.

    I would prefer to see someone who is unlicenced but having the skills, over someone who has fuck all skills yet has a bit of paper (scratch & win), released onto our roads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squiggles View Post
    http://www.nzta.govt.nz/consultation...mendment-2011/


    Theres a bit in there about the removal of the 70kph limit for learners...
    Where is that bit, I can't find it.

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    150 Kw/Tonne, <660 cc

    I'm starting to think the new restriction system they are making for learners is going to be too complicated.

    We based our new system on the Australians, and I see they have recently changed their system to a simple list. Basically a learner can only use a bike if it is on "the list", and it is up to the manufacturers and importers bringing the bikes into the country to have them added to the list.
    I think this is a much simpler idea for someone completely new to riding wanting to get their first bike for their learners licence.
    http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/licensing/...iceriders.html


    What do you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by p.dath View Post
    I'm starting to think the new restriction system they are making for learners is going to be too complicated.

    We based our new system on the Australians, and I see they have recently changed their system to a simple list. Basically a learner can only use a bike if it is on "the list", and it is up to the manufacturers and importers bringing the bikes into the country to have them added to the list.
    I think this is a much simpler idea for someone completely new to riding wanting to get their first bike for their learners licence.
    http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/licensing/...iceriders.html


    What do you think?
    I think that you have confused me.

    To get on the RTA NSW list the bike needs to have an engine capacity up to and including 660ml and not exceed a power to weight ratio of 150 kilowatts per tonne.

    That is what is being proposed over here, the same thing... Or am I really not following what you are saying.
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