The draft Land Transport Amendment Rule [2011] is out...

[p.dath]

Here a question,

i don't know if this is true, this is what i just heard.....not to sure if its going to happen in New Zealand

few good mates from aussie, told me, that (should have my full by then but if not) that if a motorcycle is not on a LAMS list, Example R6 but if you get it De-Tuned you can get it accepted ?? would this be true? lol or GSXR600 should be a LAMS bike if you promise to leave it in C Mode lol lol Yes i know get my Full i guess its the fair of not passing

In the current proposal, you would have to be able to prove that its power to weight ratio was less than 150kw/tonne. I would think you would need independent dyno sessions from multiple dynos to do that.

[StoneY]

Hell of a long thread with so many people repeating themselves

We will be initially following the LAMs list used in Victoria as a start point

thats it

Quit bleating!

this is the best license change in YEARS, the 70kph limit removed, bigger bikes for bigger people to learn on....
Bike shops and Licensing agencies will have all the info needed by the time this becomes law so just chill and quit all the bullshit speculation

Even if CBR or RGV 250's are not allowed, WHO CARES
The range of bikes that will now be available to learners will be HUGE compared to just '250cc' capacity

There are a number of nice mid powered 4 cyl 550's and such out there worth considering for the learner/restricted period

[MSTRS:Me]

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cause i know the Cbr250 are high performance four cyl engines! - which means CBr250s are out???

There are only 4 bikes that are 250cc or less that are excluded, and that is not one of them.

If it's a 2 stroke GP-replica type then it's out. RGV, TZ, NSR, RS....KR1?
4 stroke 250s comply with he power/weight thing.

[phiretrojan]

Hi All, for the leaners out there, i did a submission for the new learners rules, i just got a email back quoting "Thank you for your submission. It will be considered by the policy analysts working on this proposed Rule amendment"

so hopefully they do it, cause they do it in the UK and some bikes in AUS, - plus noticed on a few forums about it as well, people are seeing gsx600c and r6 cbr600c with LAMS

this should work for all 600cc bikes, would save money so for example, i want a R6 .... i go buy one, add restrictor plates/detune from a motorcycle store, get a Cerf from them saying its detuned (carry it all the time with you..)or something like that....... learn on that bike and once i get my full i can take it back to the location where they detuned it and get them to remove the restrictor plates it would save alot of time on money ..... so people don't have to buy another bike, if thats the bike they want. hopefully that make sense - its worth a shot .... so just doing some research

an R6 2010 is 91.0 kW (122.0 hp) @ 14,500 rpm a plate should drop it to (100hp) @ 12,200 rpm so i guess depending on the person weight and gas... but i'm sure there is more restrictors you can do like .. a restrictor for your throttle so you cant full throttle it, it stops before mid... etc personally i think if they can do this.. this would be a awesome idea! but then again.. IDK its worth a shot

[p.dath]

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so hopefully they do it, cause they do it in the UK and some bikes in AUS, - plus noticed on a few forums about it as well, people are seeing gsx600c and r6 cbr600c with LAMS

this should work for all 600cc bikes, would save money so for example, i want a R6 .... i go buy one, add restrictor plates/detune from a motorcycle store, get a Cerf from them saying its detuned (carry it all the time with you..)or something like that....... learn on that bike and once i get my full i can take it back to the

I think that would fit within the current proposed legislation without changes. The bikes mentioned are already less than 660c. And as long as you had can prove the power is less than 150kw/tonne, you should be fine.

[5t3a1F]

There are a number of nice mid powered 4 cyl 550's and such out there worth considering for the learner/restricted period

Not sure which world you are living in mate, quick research tells me that the last 4cyl 550's manufactured were suzuki's gs550 in 1981 and honda's cb550 in 1982.

If by 'a number' you mean 'one only' available on trademe, and I'm unsure whether you would describe it as nice.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Cate...ch_suggested=0

anyone else know of any 550 fours for sale?