Dirty Fucking Thieves

[SlashWylde]

A helmet. For fuck's sake. Why steal a helmet?

'Cause they could, pure and simple.

[justsomeguy]

Aint hindsight a wonderful thing.....

Why not drop the wendys on the floor get on your bike and chase the bastards long enough to get their rego and some sort of a description......

Then go talk to the cops and see how they get their "much loved" reputation......ah easy to talk from the comfort of your bedroom........

Don't worry bout it now, it's all in the past, lesson learned, time to move on..... older and wiser

[gamgee]

i'm still young and stupid...

[Jantar]

Maybe I'm just TOO naive, but I can't see why anyone would say that Sychophant is even partly to blame for leaving his helmet on his bike. I'm sorry, but that "older but wiser" comment cuts no ice as far as I'm concerned. It is entirely the fault of the dishonest scums who took the helmet.

I know that there are some dishonest scums out there, but that shouldn't stop any of us from treating the rest of society as good honest people. We should all be able to leave our gear on our bike, safe in the knowledge that it will still be there when we return. When some dishonest creature dares to steal, then the full force of society should be brought to bear, to punish, and to educate. Note that I say the full force of Society, not the police, and not the justice system. It is only when the majority of people demand that this type of behaviour be stamped out that the politicians will direct the police and the dept of justice to take action. As long as we are prepared to accept a police force that will put traffic on a higher priority than acts of dishonesty, and as long as we accept that it can takes tens or even hundreds of such dishonest acts before a single individual is punished, and as long as we accept that even when punishment is dished out it doesn't even cover the cost of a helmet, then these acts will continue.

We must stop blaming the victim, and put the blame fairly where it belongs, with the Criminal.

[justsomeguy]

Maybe I'm just TOO naive, but I can't see why anyone would say that Sychophant is even partly to blame for leaving his helmet on his bike. I'm sorry, but that "older but wiser" comment cuts no ice as far as I'm concerned. It is entirely the fault of the dishonest scums who took the helmet.

I know that there are some dishonest scums out there, but that shouldn't stop any of us from treating the rest of society as good honest people. We should all be able to leave our gear on our bike, safe in the knowledge that it will still be there when we return. When some dishonest creature dares to steal, then the full force of society should be brought to bear, to punish, and to educate. Note that I say the full force of Society, not the police, and not the justice system. It is only when the majority of people demand that this type of behaviour be stamped out that the politicians will direct the police and the dept of justice to take action. As long as we are prepared to accept a police force that will put traffic on a higher priority than acts of dishonesty, and as long as we accept that it can takes tens or even hundreds of such dishonest acts before a single individual is punished, and as long as we accept that even when punishment is dished out it doesn't even cover the cost of a helmet, then these acts will continue.

We must stop blaming the victim, and put the blame fairly where it belongs, with the Criminal.

You also believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy and the pots of gold under rainbows??

[inlinefour]

Probably to take to C Converters or TM, just to buy drugs or alcohol because he is a total looser who has not worked a day in his life...

[Jantar]

You also believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy and the pots of gold under rainbows??

This is exactly the type of attitude that allows the criminals to believe they have the "right" to take some-elses property.

Don't say "...it's all in the past, lesson learned, time to move on...", rather make it public and keep these issues alive. Also keep right on badgering the police and asking what they are doing about it.

[Odin]

This is exactly the type of attitude that allows the criminals to believe they have the "right" to take some-elses property.

Don't say "...it's all in the past, lesson learned, time to move on...", rather make it public and keep these issues alive. Also keep right on badgering the police and asking what they are doing about it.

Hear Hear

Thats though what young people with incorrect values do. Steal stuff just to steal it. They most likely drove arround with it for a while, then destoied it and dumped it.

Sorry for you loss man. Now did anybody see it... ? would anybody stand up to them ? try to stop them ? I'm 65Kgs but have a tendancy to rush in before i think. There was a couple of young dudes in the supermarket the other day, stealing some cokkies and i stopped them. Had my 2 little girls with me.... But what do i get ? If they get in to trouble ? will they come looking ?
Thats the world today....

[justsomeguy]

This is exactly the type of attitude that allows the criminals to believe they have the "right" to take some-elses property.

Don't say "...it's all in the past, lesson learned, time to move on...", rather make it public and keep these issues alive. Also keep right on badgering the police and asking what they are doing about it.

Fair enough.

I believe in the he helps those who help themselves attitude.

And the police don't usually do a lot, but that's just my personal experience with a similar issue.

By the way with the increasing levels of crime I seriously doubt it if the crims are going to suddenly discover honest ways, therefore I would advocate for more caution.

[Indiana_Jones]

Find a lamp post or tree, I'll bring the piano wire.....

-Indy

[Brian d marge]

I know that there are some dishonest scums out there, but that shouldn't stop any of us from treating the rest of society as good honest people. We should all be able to leave our gear on our bike, safe in the knowledge that it will still be there when we return. When some dishonest creature dares to steal, then the full force of society should be brought to bear, to punish, and to educate. Note that I say the full force of Society, not the police, and not the justice system. It is only when the majority of people demand that this type of behaviour be stamped out that the politicians will direct the police and the dept of justice to take action. As long as we are prepared to accept a police force that will put traffic on a higher priority than acts of dishonesty, and as long as we accept that it can takes tens or even hundreds of such dishonest acts before a single individual is punished, and as long as we accept that even when punishment is dished out it doesn't even cover the cost of a helmet, then these acts will continue.

We must stop blaming the victim, and put the blame fairly where it belongs, with the Criminal.

Have to agree with you on this one ... Most of the crime- in-anals I have come across are mentally challanged, ( cos mum or dad didnt tell them at about the age of eight or so , I think it about this age they learn resposability and disapline )
Anyway they are not the brightest sparks, ie the hampsters dead but the wheels are still turning
I fully agree , a massive publicity campain , such as with drinking driving/speed etc saying its not socially tolerated ,,then at ( assuming no more resources are redirected )
Sentencing Strike 1
...community service for a looonnnnnggg time ( as this does actually benifit society , our community hall was repainted by them a good job needed doing )
Strike 2
No comunity service ...I would be inclined towards ARMY service . basic training and a custoadial sentence on top depending on the severity of the crime ( With no room for advancement etc)
Strike three
See what the sherrif did in Texas ( I think ) a quantalimo bay type enclosure ie concrete/bed/ surounded by a chain mesh fence IN THE MIDDLE of the DESERT
Now we dont have a desert by we do have that waruru ( desert road ) ...
big empty /F%&' cold ,,,not nice ....oh and this guy also fed the inmates the basic caloriffic value required ( I think it was beloney sandwaches or something like that ) ...Just enough and no more to maintain a basic health
I also think the only reading material was The bible or something like that ....
His response ..Tough you dont like it dont do the crime....

I looked into californicates three strike law, 25 years for the third felony , hasnt worked ,,,
Do an internet seach for Mary Smith hanged 1777 at the old bailey for stealing a hand kerchief , her husband was pressed ganged into the navy and she had 2 kids to feed ( one was still breast feeding) ,,,She changed her mind about stealing and put the cloth back down ,,BUT was found guilty and hung with the child still at her breast ..
So The crack down hard approach WithOUT the chance of education HAS been tried AND repeatedly fails.

Finally those who had ever had need of a Lawyer will know what DAMN good bullshitters they are
I was in court many years ago watching my friends case ( HE WAS a total Scuzzy ) ..but I tell you I ALMOST believed his LAWYER!!!!!
Possibly why the sentences are to lenient

It must be heart breaking for both police and Victim to see a naughty boy , slap on the wrist dont do it again ..... being handed out

Stephen

[Lou Girardin]

The Saudis remove hands for stealing. They still have thieves.
What else do you suggest, Jantar?
Perhaps if "good, honest" citizens didn't buy stuff off the back of a truck, there'd be less theft.

[Timber020]

Some guy cut the strap of my flatmates helmet to steal it from a helmet lock.

[avgas]

ya should have gone accross the road to burger fuel ....nah just kiddin
Will beat the shit out of anyone who i see with that helmet boss (so tell me if you get it back )
I take it you cant fit a medium? cos you can borrow 1 of mine.

[avgas]

Anything to annoy and inconveniance(sp?) bikers. What would a cage driving, slack jawed, son of a **** need with a helmet anyway?

Dont be supprised if they dont know what it is.......wasnt shiny was it