Aging motorcyclists - Close Up tonight 30/11/10

**Subike** · 30th November 2010, 18:21

I sent Mark an Email, asking why during the filming of the programe, the police car overtook another car in pursit of a motorcycle on a bend to the left. A very good example of carless use of a motorvehicle.
I asked if a motorcycle was coming the opposite direction around that corner, who would be in the wrong if an incident happened?
I doubbt if I will get a reply.
But I have to agree with others, the representitives shown were not ............
We should all email Mark tonight on thisreport, neg and poss views

**crystalball** · 30th November 2010, 18:22

they love us to be soo interested in us. But to the point where we are loved too much. The future is concerning as the freedom off the ride has been taken away.

**bogan** · 30th November 2010, 18:22

Originally Posted by Mom

Yepper, and we will win that battle. Of that I have absoltely NO DOUBT!

sounds like close up should be getting a lump of coal for biased reporting! wonder if we could get JC to cover that story?

**Mom** · 30th November 2010, 18:26

Originally Posted by bogan

sounds like close up should be getting a lump of coal for biased reporting! wonder if we could get JC to cover that story?

Oh, what a great idea. We gave the reporter and cameraman that did the item last year oranges for being "nice"

http://tvnz.co.nz/politics-news/bike...-3315351/video

Coal to Close Up for the bias shown in that article may be a really good hook for this years event

**baptist** · 30th November 2010, 18:26

Originally Posted by Katman

And while I'm absolutely sure they filmed motorcyclists who showed a completely different attitude, the fact that they didn't show any of them shows the true extent of the shit-fight that we have ahead of us.

Until we can be seen en masse by the general public in a far better light we will continue to push shit uphill.

+1 (I agree with Katman

). That was not a good program, it was also totally different in attitude towards those the segment was about (bikers) compared to Campbell (young car drivers).

Man it is an uphill battle for sure.

**shrub** · 30th November 2010, 18:27

Motorcycle speed is not the main cause of motorcycle crashes, so why is targetting speeding motorcyclists on a country road their sole strategy to reduce the motorcycle crash rate? Kind of like dealing with the weeds in my garden by spraying roundup on the grass verge.

**Pussy** · 30th November 2010, 18:33

Originally Posted by baptist

Man it is an uphill battle for sure.

That it is!
It's all about perception. If we all clean up our acts as motorcyclists, and get seen as favourable in the public eye, the cause will go our way a bit easier.

**Oakie** · 30th November 2010, 18:36

Originally Posted by Pussy

That it is!
It's all about perception. If we all clean up our acts as motorcylists, and get seen as favourable in the public eye, the cause will go our way a bit easier.

Trouble is that it's not the well behaved folks without the attitude who get the publicity. 99% of us can be good but it'll be the other 1% who get the publicity (not that I believe that 99% or anywhere near it are without blame on the road)

**dipshit** · 30th November 2010, 18:39

Originally Posted by shrub

Motorcycle speed is not the main cause of motorcycle crashes

The concern wasn't about motorcycle crashes... it was about serious and fatal motorcycle crashes. The majority of these do happen on country roads at higher speeds with the motorcycle rider being predominantly at fault.

**Voltaire** · 30th November 2010, 18:43

Did 1100 kms in the weekend on the Old Ducati....combined age of 81.....in fact the youngest combined bike/rider age was 70....

I've always wanted to call a cop " Son" like they used to do to me....

**5t3a1F** · 30th November 2010, 18:44

I might be mistaken, but when being given a speeding ticket, aren't you entitled to ask to see the calibration certificate for the device that was used to determine your speed?

**dmc** · 30th November 2010, 18:49

Originally Posted by 5t3a1F

I might be mistaken, but when being given a speeding ticket, aren't you entitled to ask to see the calibration certificate for the device that was used to determine your speed?

As I said earlier unless things have changed I didn't think shooting through glass was an accepted use of a laser. So can't see its even valid?

**yachtie10** · 30th November 2010, 18:54

May be wrong but i thought bthe officer that took the reading must be the one issuing a ticket?
Happened in auckland a while back where they were using overpasses and radioing ahead, I understood that the tickets were thrown out

Any of our boys in Blue confirm or deny

Program was about the standard of journalism I expect (poor)

**oldrider** · 30th November 2010, 18:58

Just saw that close up program, what a pretzel that Mark Sainsbury is, his presentation is crap!

The Police section looked like a badly acted TV spoof comedy, I expected to see Benny Hill or Dick Emery appear at any minute!

**Brian d marge** · 30th November 2010, 19:02

Originally Posted by Voltaire

Did 1100 kms in the weekend on the Old Ducati....combined age of 81.....in fact the youngest combined bike/rider age was 70....

I've always wanted to call a cop " Son" like they used to do to me....

Thats a very old Ducati you have

Stephen