Aging motorcyclists - Close Up tonight 30/11/10

**superman** · 30th November 2010, 20:03

That media segment totally makes me expect that being 18 my insurance will be reasonable compared to seasoned riders. They say they pay $500 for full comprehensive... my quote was $1700

Fuck you media... got my hopes up

**Wrestler** · 30th November 2010, 20:14

any accident involving a motorcycle becomes a bike accident whether another type of vehicle cause it or not. Fact is cars cause most bike accidents. i guess "car accident" does not read as dramatically as "motorbike accident".
These 'safety' campaigns are insulting to me, if/when i get pulled over i m ight ask the cops if they are doing their own capaign given they are responsible for a number of motorcyclist deaths throught there maneuvres. can someone advise how many such deaths have occured in the last 12 to 18 months?

**Kickaha** · 30th November 2010, 20:44

Originally Posted by shrub

If us motorcyclists refuse to attribute any blame on other road users,

I've always thought Motorcyclists were very good at attributing blame on other road users regardless of whether it's deserved or not

Originally Posted by Wrestler

Fact is cars cause most bike accidents.

Lets see you back that claim up

**Katman** · 30th November 2010, 20:47

Originally Posted by Wrestler

if/when i get pulled over i m ight ask the cops if they are doing their own capaign given they are responsible for a number of motorcyclist deaths throught there maneuvres. can someone advise how many such deaths have occured in the last 12 to 18 months?

Ahhh, one?

And I'm sorry to say that your claim that most motorcycle accidents are caused by cars is complete bollocks.

**ducatilover** · 30th November 2010, 20:52

Just managed to watch the close up segment on the web here, not the best obfuscation I've seen before. It was biased. If I was to be pulled over and told I was speeding, chances are, it was true.
If you get pulled over don't give a camera man a stupid story, attempting to pour testosterone all over the camera, it's a political issue, not a Travolta movie. What a fucking bell end!

**carver** · 30th November 2010, 20:54

piss off old cunts

We will own you

mormon few

**shrub** · 30th November 2010, 21:09

Originally Posted by Kickaha

I've always thought Motorcyclists were very good at attributing blame on other road users regardless of whether it's deserved or not

They used to, but the pendulum has swung the other way and now we daren't even consider that the behaviour of other road users puts us in danger. It's called political correctness - don't offend anyone and agree with the majority.

Motorcyclists these days are nice, inoffensive and apologetic.

**twinbruva** · 30th November 2010, 21:09

I have just gone through the last six pages and I can't find more than one or two coherent posts.

TVNZ grasps on the negatives, no matter what the subject (Pike River anyone?) to get the numb-nuts' attention at dinner time. Most of those bikers on Close Up played into their hands.

I will challenge TVNZ to get a more balanced view and interview some bikers who have had time to evaluate what will be put before the viewers, just as the 'opposing side' had. Funny how all the bikers' views were 'on the spot' (when practically everyone freaks out with a big camera jammed in their face) but the cop got to sit quietly in an office (or wherever) and calmy spout his bullshit.

TVNZ are cunts.

**schrodingers cat** · 30th November 2010, 21:26

Originally Posted by PrincessBandit

And did I hear "ah, my speedo doesn't even work...." ????? Along with "I never look at my speedo". Bloody hell.

Perhaps a tax token for motorcyle not to WOF standard would have made them STFU

Originally Posted by BIG DOUG

Mark sainsbury is a motorcyclist he has a very tasty norton 650ss

MR Sainsbury is a total walrus mustachios sell out TOOL. I don't give a fuck if he has a tasty bike. I only hope the wind in his face reduces the taste of cock in his mouth.

I never liked Paul Holmes either

**scumdog** · 30th November 2010, 21:28

Originally Posted by dmc

Aren't they only meant to.....

Ah. the kiss of death to many a legal argument....

**James Deuce** · 30th November 2010, 21:29

Originally Posted by shrub

They used to, but the pendulum has swung the other way and now we daren't even consider that the behaviour of other road users puts us in danger. It's called political correctness - don't offend anyone and agree with the majority.

Motorcyclists these days are nice, inoffensive and apologetic.

Inoffensive and apologetic?

No, I still say most motorcyclists can't ride for shit, and refuse to consider the road they share with other road users as anything other than a playground to exercise their toys on.

How is that apologetic?

Or inoffensive?

Personally I think motorcyclists put far too much energy into trying to attribute blame in situations where it's either pointless or just trying to justify yet another bonehead move due to "I own The Road-itis".

Your definition of Political Correctness is skewed. The definition of PC is bending the truth to avoid offending a minority. In the context of KB that means never saying anything bad about other motorcyclists lest we offend the people who post here. On the road motorcyclists ARE the minority. Somehow a justifiably loathed minority. Probably the only minority in NZ the rest of the country not only dares to criticise, but would support moves to remove us from the road altogether.

It also means giving other motorcyclists permission to never, ever take responsibility for creating a mess in the first instance.

It's always the road surface, or car drivers, or barriers, or road design, or sheep, but it's never the idiot at the bars doing something he shouldn't have, like buy a bike beyond his skills, never actually work on or understand just what those skills are or simply understand that the road rules just are and you deserve that ticket/jail term.

I know of one single vehicle motorcycle accident in the last 10 years that wasn't the rider's "fault", and no it wasn't either of my two. TWO, FFS. Thoroughly ashamed of that. Most other people celebrate it and have a giggle, just like they do with their speeding tickets and careless and dangerous driving charges.